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Retro quandary...
#1618986
15/04/2018 20:17
15/04/2018 20:17
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Jim_Clennell
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Stepson minor - the final one of our 5 kids to take the wheel - will be learning to drive at the end of the year when he turns 17.
Thanks to a legacy from his great-grandma, he will have a budget of around £2k to spend on his first car, with around £1k for insurance on top.
He is unequivocally NOT a petrolhead and has a style that is both distinctive and bold.
His firm favourite would be...
- a Lada 1200.
Now, I can't find enough Ladas to work out if he can realistically expect to buy (and insure) one for his budget.
He has reluctantly agreed that he will consider other options, with a strong preference for the 70's/80's 3-box saloon look.
We've tried a lot of cars (Cortina, Trevi, 131, Herald, Montego even Volvo 340!, etc) and a lot of websites, but my fear is that if it's within his budget, it'll be a shed/money-pit and if it's not, well, it's out of reach.
He has said that a Classic Mini would be acceptable at a pinch, which gives me hope at least of finding something.
Any suggestions, my FCCUK brethren?
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Re: Retro quandary...
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15/04/2018 20:44
15/04/2018 20:44
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Gunzi
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An interesting period! I’m way more au fait with the 80’s motors although anything from either period is risky in terms of overall condition. Some suggestions which should be attainable for £2k if you can find them! 3 box Cavalier Sierra Orion A Saab of some description 309 Passat Vento 2 box Golf Polo 306 Nova 205 Metro Escort Civic Fiesta mk2 Pick up a copy of Modern Classics for cars from 80’s to end of 2000’s. There is also a Facebook group called pre 1996 retro cars and parts for sale, all sorts of motors get advertised like this: https://www.facebook.com/groups/39089661...122019477813665
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Re: Retro quandary...
[Re: Jim_Clennell]
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16/04/2018 08:02
16/04/2018 08:02
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neil_r
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Personally, I would say it is a foolhardy option for a daily driver. Some parts will be hard or near impossible to come by and reliability will be much worse than something newer. If it is not already rusty, using it daily in bad conditions will soon start to eat away at the iron-based parts.
You might have noticed me moaning about the level of rust now on my fairly well looked after `97 Coupe which has only ~57k miles and I have had it from new. To cut a long story short - wife wanted an SUV when son ruined her trusty Impreza. Now SUV is too big for town use so she wants small car. I will take the SUV and buy a small car and son wants the Coupe. We will have the rust mainly seen to but I doubt it will look good for many more years even after a tidy up if it is used very regularly. Now a car from a generation or two older is going to be much worse on the tin-worm front.
1997 20V 2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR 2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD 2018 Mazda2 GT
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Re: Retro quandary...
[Re: Jim_Clennell]
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16/04/2018 11:42
16/04/2018 11:42
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neil_r
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My teenager keeps coming back to a 5.0 V8 Mustang. He is being sponsored by a company to do his degree and gets paid, wait for it ... ... about 500 Pounds a month net!!! Where he thinks he is going to get 35K for a car by the time he graduates is beyond me. I'm starting to completely fail to understand modern teenagers In my day, just having a car was great. For 2000 Pounds in the UK, one can get something a bit different like: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/...72pd&page=3That would be about 5000€ where I am if it was LHD
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1997 20V 2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR 2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD 2018 Mazda2 GT
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Re: Retro quandary...
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17/04/2018 10:22
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X19_pilot
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Have a look through the pages on here and see if anything jumps out. I am sure you could refine the search criteria further... https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/classic_...15&S=Search I would be sceptical about letting a new driver running an older car from a safety point of view, but I also admire the fact that he would like something retro. I would probably go down the VW Polo route based on build quality from that era, but there are some interesting alternatives in the link, although granted he might struggle for insurance with the Trans Am on page 3!
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Re: Retro quandary...
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17/04/2018 10:32
17/04/2018 10:32
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samsite999
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There is good reason they are mostly extinct. While I really do admire his retro style they are going to fold like tin cans in an accident with a modern vehicle. I'm an adult and I know that ill be in a bad way if I have a smash in the panda, but im old enough to understand the risk and reward, and limited liability is it goes out once a month or so.
I'm not a parent, but if i was I would want my inexperienced child in something that if harm were to come his or her way they would have a fighting chance of walking away with legs.
No offence, but were mostly a little bit risk happy at that age, Until they are adult enough and experienced enough, and not one's responsibility I would chuck something with a good Ncap rating and a black box in it and say they can buy a proper car with there own money in time.
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Re: Retro quandary...
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26/07/2018 14:08
26/07/2018 14:08
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DaveG
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And also what's wrong with a "backwards" rotating engine? The engine in the old Fiat 850 saloons I used to have was developed from the similar 600 engine but with reverse rotation (to allow for a larger radiator/better cooling which meant the crank axis moved to the other side of the gearbox centereline, and engine rotation was reversed to avoid having 4 reverse and 1 forward gear) and then when the 127 came out with the same engine but in FWD, the engine rotation reverted back. Surely only a concern if you want to stick a different engine in, maybe Neil was secretly looking to stick a 20vt engine into an Acclaim?
1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus 1985½ & 2016 2017 Fiat 124 Spider + XF Sportbrake
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Re: Retro quandary...
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27/07/2018 08:12
27/07/2018 08:12
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Frogthedog
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How about an older 3 series? Rear wheel drive easy to work on and fairly cheap to insure.
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Re: Retro quandary...
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27/07/2018 08:14
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Frogthedog
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