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why new ecu? #204189 02/10/2006 22:40 02/10/2006 22:40
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride
TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	hey guys i was just wondering why people need new ecus i know that other ecus can be better mapped. im getting my car mapped on thursday and just wondering do i need a new ecu? modds are listed below.

Re: why new ecu? #204190 02/10/2006 22:45 02/10/2006 22:45
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Um, I can't see any form of mappable ECU in your sig ?

Re: why new ecu? #204191 02/10/2006 22:46 02/10/2006 22:46
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Who is mapping your car - how are they doing it? Common method is using a unichip which adapts the signals from the standard ECU. For a stand alone 'mappable' ecu your looking at a couple of grand.

Re: why new ecu? #204192 02/10/2006 22:50 02/10/2006 22:50
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride
TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	damn this confuses me redline racing are doing the mapp for me maybe im gettin a little too confused here im gettin a head ache. lol they are putting a chip on the car then mapping off that is that right? would that work. he has done many fiat coupes befor as well.

Re: why new ecu? #204193 02/10/2006 22:52 02/10/2006 22:52
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Anonymous Unregistered A	one of these? http://www.dastek.co.uk/unichip.htm

Re: why new ecu? #204194 02/10/2006 22:54 02/10/2006 22:54
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride
TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	i honestly have no clue havent been there yet going on thursday i will find out more info then. hmmm gettin a little worried now i dont think it is a piggyback ecu

Re: why new ecu? #204195 02/10/2006 22:54 02/10/2006 22:54
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride
TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	how do pts mapp most peoples cars?

Re: why new ecu? #204197 02/10/2006 23:00 02/10/2006 23:00
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst Begbie Ex El Presidente
Begbie Ex El Presidente I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst	Quote: damn this confuses me redline racing are doing the mapp for me maybe im gettin a little too confused here im gettin a head ache. lol they are putting a chip on the car then mapping off that is that right? would that work. he has done many fiat coupes befor as well. It's called live mapping. They put a chip in the ECU, then use a emulator which will read everything real time. They then makes the changes on the emulator to suit your mods, once done, they burn the chip and this is now your new chip. Plus side to this is there isn't the expense of the unichip and it's done all via the ECU instead of the unichip fighting / manulipuating the ECU Only downside is if you need a re-map, you need to go back, and go through the whole process again, but it should be cheapier than the inital out lay of the unichip Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies

Re: why new ecu? #204198 02/10/2006 23:03 02/10/2006 23:03
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride
TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	hehe that makes sense cheer begbie! thank god for thank was getting a little worried there

Re: why new ecu? #204199 02/10/2006 23:24 02/10/2006 23:24
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Anonymous Unregistered A	I had this method done when i first got my coupe cost me £180 for 3hours mapping. Where is the place that is doing this?

Re: why new ecu? #204200 03/10/2006 01:47 03/10/2006 01:47
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride
TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	saint alband i think use to be call ggb augusto is the man who does the mapping

Re: why new ecu? #204201 03/10/2006 02:25 03/10/2006 02:25
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,588 Essex Rog20VT I need some sleep
Rog20VT I need some sleep Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,588 Essex	thats a millenium chip by red dot. www.Poweritalia.com - The UK's leading Fiat Coupe Specialist

Re: why new ecu? #204202 03/10/2006 03:47 03/10/2006 03:47
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride
TurboNick OP Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	is it any good do u know?

Re: why new ecu? #204203 03/10/2006 13:59 03/10/2006 13:59
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Plus side to this is there isn't the expense of the unichip and it's done all via the ECU instead of the unichip fighting / manulipuating the ECU Only downside is if you need a re-map, you need to go back, and go through the whole process again, but it should be cheapier than the inital out lay of the unichip Begbie, I didn't realise 20VT owners have this option! BTW, when you say they replace the chip surely this new mappable chip will have base maps for the 20VT and then their s/w can modify them? Not quite the same with us 16VT, tunerpro ostreich (sp?) and a wideband lambda (and as you mention a good ear for knocking...) cheers V.

Re: why new ecu? #204204 03/10/2006 14:20 03/10/2006 14:20
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,390 Essex Trappy Forum is my life
Trappy Forum is my life Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,390 Essex	Quote: It's called live mapping. They put a chip in the ECU, then use a emulator which will read everything real time. They then makes the changes on the emulator to suit your mods, once done, they burn the chip and this is now your new chip. Plus side to this is there isn't the expense of the unichip and it's done all via the ECU instead of the unichip fighting / manulipuating the ECU Only downside is if you need a re-map, you need to go back, and go through the whole process again, but it should be cheapier than the inital out lay of the unichip This sounds like what i'll be after if my mixture isn't running well. I don't intend to take any further power mods after FMIC and SI so i'd rather fork out £200 rather than £400-£500 if i can. Do all the usual rolling roads offer this? F**** b**** thing...

Re: why new ecu? #204205 03/10/2006 15:54 03/10/2006 15:54
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst Begbie Ex El Presidente
Begbie Ex El Presidente I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst	I probably know of one company who could live map, but they are in blackpool and have a serious investment in there equipment, like 30k worth of equipment. There website is www.remapping.co.uk and if you want to have a proper read on what is involved with live mapping, sit back, get a brew on and read this Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies

Re: why new ecu? #204206 03/10/2006 23:01 03/10/2006 23:01
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Anonymous Unregistered A	This is exactly what was done to my ECU. Doing this is better than a unichip as you have access to everything providing you have the correct software. I can get as far as chapter 4 but the problem is I don't have the software to interoperate the eeprom dump into a usable map also the emulator is key as you need it whilst live mapping. This method is just as good as going standalone except for our crappy airflow meter. I would recommend this method over unichip or any other piggy back chip. It may also be a better method than some standalones.

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