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Is 6 better than 5 #271173
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..gears that is..

There seems to be some mixed feelings on this....what I want to know is, other than an extra gear, what is the difference with the other 5, compared to a regular 5 speed box. Are they like for like, or have all the ratio's been spread out a bit more over the 6 gears.



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Well my 6-speed Plus is getting close to 520 miles on a tank now. And far nicer to drive.

People say there slower, yet mine does a 14.5 qtr mile at santa pod, shame some of the 5-speeders in standard form couldnt match it. No speed difference.

Those with 5 speed are just hella jelous.

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How the hell do you get 520? I can get to about 250 on 1/2 a tank, and then it just nosedives rapidly.... best is 310 from a full tank, but TBH, whilst I don't boot it everywhere, I stick to about 80 on Motorways if I am looking to conserve the fuel..




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Nope to and from work and odd tooutles around. About 100 miles on the motorway to get to that, otherwise i do 480.

It does drink if i kill it, had to do 25 miles in 20 mins on A and B-roads in an emergency once and it took half a tank. Made it on time though.

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I had a 5 speed NA before, and now have a six speed LE. I don't tear arse around, so can't comment on the speed difference between the two, but I get a hell of a lot more miles from a tank with the six speed when doing motorway milage to Glasgow and back than I did in the 5 speed. It could be down to the NA/Turbo difference, but I'd have thought a turbo would use more?

Anyway, I'm convinced, 6 speed all the way

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I've never had a 5 speeder, but what I can say from the 6 speed is that's nice to be able to cruise on the motorway (in top gear) without it being on boost all the time - obviously if you want that, change down - or speed up

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Well my 6-speed Plus is getting close to 520 miles on a tank now. And far nicer to drive.



Whaaaaaaat..
You running some kp juice on it.

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Well my 6-speed Plus is getting close to 520 miles on a tank now. And far nicer to drive.



Whaaaaaaat..
You running some kp juice on it.




Nope. Its on 518 now, light is on but i rekon i can get to work on it tomorrow, that should break my record.

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Nah, 6-speeds are for poncey weirdo gay-boys like CarlT. REAL men don't need an extra cog to display their masculinity



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As the man said - a classic example of five speed inadequacy there

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Nah, 6-speeds are for poncey weirdo gay-boys like CarlT. REAL men don't need an extra cog to display their masculinity




Yet another jelous 5 speed owner

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Nah, 6-speeds are for poncey weirdo gay-boys like


those who still live at home with their parents in North Wales

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And how am i poncey? im not am i?

papping my horn shouting move out my way commoner doesnt make me poncey does it?

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5 speed boxes have proven to be stronger and IIRC provide a higher top speed.

The 6 speed will be better for fuel consumption on motorway and relaxed driving. I have a 5 speed box and it doesnt seem as economical as the 6 speeders.

Ross

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5 speed boxes have proven to be stronger and IIRC provide a higher top speed.

The 6 speed will be better for fuel consumption on motorway and relaxed driving. I have a 5 speed box and it doesnt seem as economical as the 6 speeders.

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In a standard coupe i dont see any strength difference.

In a modded coupe maybe, but then im certain it would make a higher speed.

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5 speed boxes have proven to be stronger and IIRC provide a higher top speed.

The 6 speed will be better for fuel consumption on motorway and relaxed driving. I have a 5 speed box and it doesnt seem as economical as the 6 speeders.

Ross




Ross, it could have a 12 speed box and it wouldn't be as economical with you driving you bandit

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I think barbz is changing back to a 5 speed with different cogs because of breaking 6 speed boxes. So although it might be technically possible to get a higher speed, if the box breaks before you get there......

Ross

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Er at those sort of powers anything becomes weaker.

He can throw belts with power. Doesnt mean the 6-speed is a weak box, ive never seen a blown one.

Nyssa uses a 6 speed with new internals i believe.

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But the fact that the 5 speed is being used as a stronger solution means its stronger than the 6 speed. With extra power.

If i could get a 6 speed to try it out on my coupe i would.

Ross

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Or maybe because people dont want to spend the 500+ it takes to buy a 6-speed.

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But the fact that the 5 speed is being used as a stronger solution means its stronger than the 6 speed. With extra power.

If i could get a 6 speed to try it out on my coupe i would.

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And anyway how many people have destroyed a six speeder to say they are weak? Not many. Hardly any. Ive never heard of any.

You carnt say there waek because the odd one has blown at big power.

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I think the german coupe owners have more issues with them. I don't think the 6 speed box likes cruising at 3 figure speeds for long periods of time. Something to do with one of the bearings not getting an especially good fead of oil and them overheating?

Probably not too much of a problem in this country unless you don't want to keep your license

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Yeh yeh yeh whatever, they probably havent got any oil in them.

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I don't think the 6 speed box likes cruising at 3 figure speeds for long periods of time.




From the people that I've spoken too (cough) it's not an issue, although it depends on what you term as a long period of time. Certainly an hour or two is no issue, by all accounts, but the germans have propoer roads and 3+ hours might throw up an issue, but then again it might with a lot of gearboxes.

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Nah, 6-speeds are for poncey weirdo gay-boys like


those who still live at home with their parents in North Wales




Yeah! I think it's called "living the dream" actually



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Yeah! I think it's called "living the dream" actually




And being the only one in the Village

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520 on a tank, thats insane!!!
seriously tho, how is that possible - what changes have been made from standard setup?
wish mine would get even somewhere near that figure!

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Sorry, perhaps well into 3 figure speeds might have been more accurate...

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And being the only one in the Village




You're very close to having a damn good spanking you are



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Only at the weekends Pinin, and it cost's £50 a go, so, unless the old family allowance has gone up, it means your not affording it this week

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