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As expected - now with comparison graph #533322 01/02/2008 00:07 01/02/2008 00:07
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	Went to the rollers today. Went to a new one in the area, that a mate recommended. http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/h2ypr/?action=view¤t=tmp86.jpg Quite what i expected. They didnt measure the fuelling because of my wideband. What everyone think? Ross Last edited by h2ypr; 02/02/2008 00:51.

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533324 01/02/2008 00:09 01/02/2008 00:09
F fiat131turbo Unregistered
fiat131turbo Unregistered F	very nice !

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533327 01/02/2008 00:16 01/02/2008 00:16
E eldinho Unregistered
eldinho Unregistered E	nice early power there ross comes in quite hard though by the looks of it, hows your clutch? $\:D$ overall nice curves though $\:#$ Mark

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533329 01/02/2008 00:26 01/02/2008 00:26
M MattW Unregistered
MattW Unregistered M	what do I think? .........350bhp aint too far off $\:D$

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533332 01/02/2008 00:28 01/02/2008 00:28
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst Begbie Ex El Presidente
Begbie Ex El Presidente I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst	If you held the boost the same to the redline you would have the perfect graph $;\)$ Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies

Re: As expected [Re: Begbie] #533333 01/02/2008 00:28 01/02/2008 00:28
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	Originally Posted By: Begbie If you held the boost the same to the redline you would have the perfect graph $;\)$ What ya mean? $\:D$ Ross

Re: As expected [Re: Begbie] #533336 01/02/2008 00:32 01/02/2008 00:32
M MattW Unregistered
MattW Unregistered M	Originally Posted By: Begbie If you held the boost the same to the redline you would have the perfect graph $;\)$ that's torque, not boost $\:P$

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533338 01/02/2008 00:33 01/02/2008 00:33
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst Begbie Ex El Presidente
Begbie Ex El Presidente I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst	I presume you are tailing the boost off after 5500 - 6000rpm? Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533340 01/02/2008 00:34 01/02/2008 00:34
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst Begbie Ex El Presidente
Begbie Ex El Presidente I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst	Originally Posted By: MattW Originally Posted By: Begbie If you held the boost the same to the redline you would have the perfect graph $;\)$ that's torque, not boost $\:P$ Oh yeah, blonde moment for me $\:D$ Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533341 01/02/2008 00:34 01/02/2008 00:34
M MattW Unregistered
MattW Unregistered M	erroneous 1500rpm readings as well... more torque at 1500 rpm than at 2500 rpm. OK i'm just bored now $\:D$

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533349 01/02/2008 00:39 01/02/2008 00:39
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	Thats to do with him holding the car at 1500rpm, then releasing the rollers. The boost tails from 1.3 to 1.2 between 5k to 6k. Ross

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533418 01/02/2008 02:51 01/02/2008 02:51
E eldinho Unregistered
eldinho Unregistered E	what were you running midrange, 1.5?

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533422 01/02/2008 02:56 01/02/2008 02:56
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,405 Castle Combe Flea Forum is my life
Flea Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,405 Castle Combe	No question, that is the best GT28R coupe this forum has ever seen. In fact I dare say that is the most driveable/powerful combination out there...10/10 Ross $\:\)$

Re: As expected [Re: Flea] #533442 01/02/2008 03:38 01/02/2008 03:38
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	Originally Posted By: Flea No question, that is the best GT28R coupe this forum has ever seen. In fact I dare say that is the most driveable/powerful combination out there...10/10 Ross $\:\)$ Thanks dude!! $\:D$ Now lets see if its any good on the 1/4 mile!!! $\:D$ Ross

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533454 01/02/2008 04:07 01/02/2008 04:07
M MABR Unregistered
MABR Unregistered M	Originally Posted By: h2ypr Now lets see if its any good on the 1/4 mile!!! Well it was pretty bloody quick on that private motorway last week! $\:D$ Made up for you mate.

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533465 01/02/2008 04:26 01/02/2008 04:26
S sparkyman Unregistered
sparkyman Unregistered S	Well done matey

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533554 01/02/2008 12:46 01/02/2008 12:46
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,194 Göteborg, Sweden Freddan72 Competition Level
Freddan72 Competition Level Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,194 Göteborg, Sweden	Nice power $\:\)$ Can u give me the spec of the engine? The torque curve is going a little bit up and down between 3-4000 rpm. What EBC are you using? Coupé Fiat 20V Turbo Plus 1999, T19 Mitsubishi turbo https://youtu.be/O9qrLj3Ap00 Now FCP Stage3!

Re: As expected [Re: Freddan72] #533679 01/02/2008 16:00 01/02/2008 16:00
M MABR Unregistered
MABR Unregistered M	I don't know the engine spec but I do know he's using a Greddy Profec B. $\:\)$

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533711 01/02/2008 16:45 01/02/2008 16:45
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	I dont know why it done that tbh. I would always argue that electronic boost controllers dont work the same on the rollers as they do on the road. I originally got mines setup on the rollers and when i used it on the road it was crap. Its a false load the rollers is putting on it. On the road the boost is flat. Ross

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533716 01/02/2008 16:49 01/02/2008 16:49
M MattW Unregistered
MattW Unregistered M	maybe because the rollers are constantly tweaking the load every 3 miliseconds?

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533718 01/02/2008 16:51 01/02/2008 16:51
E eldinho Unregistered
eldinho Unregistered E	i agree, rollers are totally different to the road, you are probably running 150bhp on the road $\:P$ come on ross give us the whole spec, I want to compare $\:\)$

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533720 01/02/2008 16:53 01/02/2008 16:53
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	The whole spec of what? My car? Nothing different from usual!! $\:D$ Ooo, better update the hall of fame. Ross

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533723 01/02/2008 16:56 01/02/2008 16:56
E eldinho Unregistered
eldinho Unregistered E	i think this is your spec GT28R full 3" exhaust stage 2 TI head Fully balanced engine EVO FMIC SIP GTEC2 revised Greddy EBC that about right? Are you running standard CR? Last edited by eldinho; 01/02/2008 16:58.

Re: As expected [Re: Flea] #533731 01/02/2008 17:06 01/02/2008 17:06
K Kenno Unregistered
Kenno Unregistered K	Originally Posted By: Flea No question, that is the best GT28R coupe this forum has ever seen. I wonder what suba's got to say about that $\:P$

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533732 01/02/2008 17:06 01/02/2008 17:06
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	Its a stage 2/3 accoring to barbz. Its not a gtech2 im running. I dont know about the compression. I would doubt it due to the driveability off boost. Ross

Re: As expected [Re: ] #533765 01/02/2008 17:52 01/02/2008 17:52
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,405 Castle Combe Flea Forum is my life
Flea Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,405 Castle Combe	Originally Posted By: Kenno Originally Posted By: Flea No question, that is the best GT28R coupe this forum has ever seen. I wonder what suba's got to say about that $\:P$ I shall clarify $\:D$ The best GT28R torque/power curve goes to Ross with amazing spool and powerband $\:P$ Si does have a very very nice suspension/brake kit which will be fantastic on the track $\:#$

Re: As expected [Re: Flea] #534080 02/02/2008 00:52 02/02/2008 00:52
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	http://www.fiat-coupe.info/images/rr_results/GT28R_coupe.gif This is the same graph that flea produced last time, except it now shows my new figures. Would be interesting to see the latest graph for Suba and Sheikh's latest one aswell. Ross

Re: As expected [Re: ] #534153 02/02/2008 02:32 02/02/2008 02:32
B Blueman Unregistered
Blueman Unregistered B	Now that is a proper torque graph $\:o$

Re: As expected [Re: ] #534187 02/02/2008 03:28 02/02/2008 03:28
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	Why oh why do RR companies insist on using different scales for power and torque yet again, we have a torque plot that crosses the power plot at the wrong rpm It gives a slightly skewed picture of whats actually happening Still an impressive graph for a GT28R - would be interesting to plot my graph over the top - I bet you're making 100bhp more than me at some points. If only you could hold your boost after 5,500rpm, but I guess if you could, you wouldn't be getting boost by 3,000rpm EDIT - not quite - here's the comparative figures Revs___Ross___Nigel 3k_____140____94 3.5k___160____141 4k_____225____206 4.5k___260____270 5k_____290____309 5.5k___320____355 6k_____330____387 6.5k___330____401 7k_____334____405 7.5k___boom___400 As I've said many times before, as well driven 300 - 330bhp Coupe will easily hold its own against a 400bhp Coupe, purely because of when and how the power is delivered. Its only on a track or a seriously open road that I would make any gains.

Re: As expected [Re: Nigel] #534189 02/02/2008 03:31 02/02/2008 03:31
H h2ypr Unregistered
h2ypr Unregistered H	Originally Posted By: Nigel Why oh why do RR companies insist on using different scales for power and torque yet again, we have a torque plot that crosses the power plot at the wrong rpm It gives a slightly skewed picture of whats actually happening Still an impressive graph for a GT28R - would be interesting to plot my graph over the top - I bet you're making 100bhp more than me at some points I'd be up for that!! Also, what you think it does to the "picture" by the wrong switchover? I did notice that myself. Ross

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