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differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?????
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29/11/2008 12:44
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As above,i have a spare 20vt head which i was thinking about fitting to an na? and was thinking of having a tinker with it port an polish etc? I`m guessing the comp ratio may be different aswell as the cam`s? are the valves bigger/longer? if so could i ditch the turbo cams valves etc and fit the na parts to it? may be a silly idea just a thought that popped in to ma head
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?????
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with 20v na cams would that make it flow better at high rpm?
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?????
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Hmmm, not sure, now you're getting into that funny tuning stuff and blower technology I'll have a 20v na head sitting on my workbench before the end of the week if you need to compare?
Last edited by stan; 29/11/2008 12:59. Reason: no, I won't have a 20v na car sitting on my workbench! : Doh! :D
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?????
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Big bench lol may take you up on that thanks, hope ur not lifting it manualy they weigh a tonne
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?????
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30/11/2008 14:39
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Exhaust valves are a different part number, inlet valves are the same..... Wouldn't that be because the turbo exhaust valves are natrium (sodium) cooled?
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?
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are the valves bigger/longer? if so could i ditch the turbo cams valves etc and fit the na parts to it?
i would say that the castings are probably the same, but with differnt exhaust valves as mentioned due to the higher turbo temps. definatly use the n/a cams as they'll probably have a longer duration on the inlet and maybe the exhaust. sometimes its a common mod (never heard of it on a coupe but ive done it on other cars) to use n/a cams on turbos to get a longer duration on the inlet when running higher boost. def worth giving it a polish but be carefull as it can be detremental if you dont know what your doing. best of luck!
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?
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Got to be a bit careful though running to much valve overlap on a turbo engine. Its fine for an N/A as it means left over gases are forced out by the new inlet charge. However on a turbo car due to the pressure in the exhaust manifold having a lot of valve overlap can actually force used gases back into the combustion chambers which is a bad thing. For power and for the running of the engine.
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?
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Thanks for your help guy`s Am i reading this wrong but having looked at eper and the fiat brazil info there seems to be a mix up with the valve diamiter`s ??? eg eper says for an na its 29.9mm inlet 25,9 exhaust ....and fiat Brazil say`s its 29.5mm inlet 25.5 exhaust And for a 20vt its eper 30.2 inlet 26.2 exhaust .................fiat Brazil its 33 inlet.. 27.5 exhaust????? I`m confused..... Other than the above problem and the cam timing the rest is identical Dave
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?
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2.0 T means 2.0 16vt here
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Re: differences between 20v na head and 20vt head?
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Ah, thanks sasha will look into that Dave
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