Understood Bob, let's see how this pans out over the course of time. Will be disapointing & worrying if we start to see more failures but I guess one of those things given the points you have stated above.

The joys of Coupé ownership :-)

Spoke to my supplier today and apparently this is due to poor silicone.
Apparently the Asian contribution to the silicone is not 100% and is full of all sorts of mixtures.

He said the early signs of failure are fading of the hoses so if any fading then replace immediately.

Pure silicone doesn't fade.

Hey Guys,

Sorry to hear about the incidence... I'm still using these hoses and nothing like that happened...maybe yet. I've alerted the manufacturer and although 1-2 years of usage is arguably way pass the warranty period..i'll see what I can do. For those who have experienced this, kindly put your name down and the hose that is being affected, I'll have a chat with them and get back to you all.

Once again, sorry to hear about it.

Cheers,

David

1. Biggenz - CHOD failed

1. Biggenz - CHOD failed
2. Kelv27 - Top and bottom radiator hoses failed

I've a friend that had his water rail to turbo hose failing too. Many reports from other coupe owners in Malaysia having the same problems with these hoses too. In most instances, they start leaking from the ends..with the more severe cases being crumbling like the picture above.

I've not gotten round to fitting mine, ever....

1. Biggenz - CHOD failed
2. Kelv27 - Top and bottom radiator hoses failed
3. dlongstaff- turbo to rail, second hose from expansion tank to rail


Appreciate your posting DavidL

That is

Okay, decided then. Another drive to the UK to get everything changed once more. Anyone interested in a at-this-moment-not-leaking-secondhand-set-of-booster-hoses? I'll claim my travelling costs back - twice.

How much would you pay me to take them?

How long ago was the first group buy on silicone hoses (any make)?

Was the booster hoses the first silicone type to come onto the Fccuk group buy scene ?

Are the Viper hoses superior ? Or are they just not old enough yet?

I am trying to see or forsee if there may be a pattern of failures in silicone hoses in general.

Do we know when silicone hoses were first installed on the coupes?

It looks to me like the OEM Fiat hoses are the best bet for now.

Well yes, kind of. After having two standard Fiat CHOD's fail though I would never fit another!

That would be me. So...


1. Biggenz - CHOD failed
2. Kelv27 - Top and bottom radiator hoses failed
3. dlongstaff- turbo to rail, second hose from expansion tank to rail
4. nikazwaa - turbo to rail. Top and bottom rad starting to show deterioration on the inside.

I bought the hoses through the rudi GB having had a couple of hoses fail not long before (including the one which prompted this thread I think, replaced with a genuine Fiat part) and worried about tales of CHOD failure thought I would get the whole lot sorted. My CHOD was in great condition when I took it off, it was stuck to the outlet on the back of the engine and due to the lack of space I had to cut it off with a stanley knife as I couldn't get anything in to lever it. Really felt that I hadn't needed to bother but I hope I did the right thing. Hopefully the Viper hoses will be good quality with long life!

I'm sure I've said this before, but the 3 sets of hoses that JBT sourced from Derby have not failed me yet - it is all down to quality and I've seen them made. Although I am a chemistry graduate I couldn't tell a quality of silicone hose... all I can say is that mine haven't yet failed and I check routinely at what I can see. No issues so far.

How many months/years have they been in use. Plus, if you have three coupes that's going to be spread out a third (etch-er-sketch ) less if used same mileage across the three.
I really got no idea.

As said just before Tim. You are not a typical daily user. Nor am i in fact. As my questions earlier,i would like to see more results/failures etc. Before i decide to sit on the fence and wait. (no smiley)

(It looks to me like the OEM Fiat hoses are the best bet for now)





If they are original ones how old will they be! 13 years minimum

In most industries, spares manufacture does continue for some time after product manufacture has finished, so OEM hoses may not be as old as 13 years.

I was thinking about this, it wouldn't have anything to do with UK cars running quite a strong antifreeze mix? I'm sure I heard that a higher concentration would eat rubber seals/pipe work? Might explain why foreign hoses aren't failing?

I like that idea. But the facts are that we get colder temps in Europe than the UK and for longer times.

Antifreeze mix perhaps not, but few UK garages seem to mix said antifreeze with distilled water.

When I worked on the continent all our workshop Antifreeze came ready mixed with distilled water. In the UK most folk seem to buy neat coolant and then mix with tap water. The bloke in Halfords thought me quite mad buying distilled water to mix with the coolant I was buying.

I never use tap water. Always mix my coolant with distilled water.

Hey guys,

I've been trying to reach the manufacturer of the booster hoses but it seems that they have relocated, so I can't find them now. At any rate, if I can get hold of them, I'll let you all know. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

David