Hi new to all this just baught a garret t28 of a Nissan 200sx how hard will it be to fit to my 20v coupe and what bits will I have to buy to make it fit or was it a bad idear buying this lol

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Nissan T28 and GT28R turbochargers are almost identical.

Thanks should be here Tuesday

You'll need a v band adaptor for the down pipe or a new downpipe with 5 stud end.

Thanks ill look into it is it worth the hassle

We're do you get the v band adaptor from

They come up from time to time on here. I'm not sure whether anyone manufacture them any more. It may be worth contacting a few of the traders.

For the extra cost of parts needed to fit I'd say its not worth the aggro as you'll not see much, if any, benefit over the standard item.

A GT28R/RS is worth it so long as you get the associated modifications.

From memory the SX turbo is a GTIR which is equivalent to a 20vt stage 3 hybrid, output 310-330bhp with the correct supporting mods.
You'll need the 5 bolt-V band adapter, oil feed and return and compressor trumpets for the induction, all which can be purchased from Fleabay.

Wow I didn't realise, I thought it was essentially the same as the Coupes. If that's the case then it's worth an upgrade.

~Depends which 200SX.

The S13 had a T25, but the S14 (or the S15) had a T28 with 60-trim comp, which was the same as the turbo used on the Sunny/Pulsar GTIR

bet this has got people thirsty

Thanks all I only paid £100 with a rebuild kit and a local turbo company will check and balance for £75 so far do good

Im guessing the 13 is the mk1 SX? and 14/15 the mk11?

It's crossed my mind!

It's getting the v band that will be the trickiest part. Other than that those turbos change hands for peanuts as Dave has said.

The cheapest hybrid (recon) to match this spec is £450 - £550.

Do we know what size the turbine is on the 200sx turbo?

I've done a bit of poking around and found a thread which states the Nissan GTiR turbo is different to the standard S14(a) turbo. SXOC link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-RS-...=item35c4e72a86

would this work?

Not according to the compatibility thingymebob!
I did an e/bay search on the 200sx turbos and they seem to be really cheap in value compared to what we pay.

Turbos a very rarely straight swaps on any car - especially on Coupe 20VTs with their stoopid-ass not-proper-V-band fittings. you have to make them fit

Yes totally agree, it's not just bolt on and go

My GTir setup started much the same, £50 turbo and a Cr rebuild, then the fmic, boost controller, odds, live remap and finally 300+bhp.

It's a slippery slope

Any good for you?
http://www.gb-ent.com/cars/index.php/eng...-wg-series.html

The only one really worth considering is the S14/S15 ball bearing turbo, which is a GT2560R (GT28R). The S13 and Euro S14 use a journal bearing turbo, with the S13 having a smaller compressor again.

Thanks still having a look into it waiting for turbo to come

I've asked the question on SXOC and the S14 journal bearing turbo has a 60 trim compressor (46.6mm /60.1mm), 62 trim turbine (53.8mm/41.7mm) in a 0.64 A/R T25 housing.

Thanks to Kaci's link below the S15 turbo is the compressor is a 60 trim (60mm / 46.5mm) in a 0.60 A/R and a 62 trim turbine - (53mm exd / 38.5mm ind) in a 0.64 housing. The factory S15 spec turbo is pretty much the same as the Garrett GT2560R.

As CC has said this is the same spec as our "GTiR" turbos listed on this link to hybrid turbo details.

Therefore with the V-band or 5 stud downpipe the S14 turbo would be an upgrade to the Coupes TB28.

The only thing I've yet to look at is the advantages of a Ball Bearing over Journal bearing. Could someone enlighten me?!

Ball bearing turbos spool faster then a journal.

Well researched Chris

A few years ago I bought T28 from Nissan (part number 14411-75F00) but still can not find time to mount in my Bravo.
Here, you can see my T28 from Nissan.
Ball bearing turbo really spool faster, but the difference in price and repair price is several times higher!
Davefaiers - what is the part number of your ebay turbo?

Ok so the next questions are:

What difference do the different sized wheels make? Presumably a smaller wheel is easier to spool but won't generate as much boost at the top end?

What is the relationship between trim, housing and wheel size?

What size are the wheels and housing sizes in the standard TB28?

Going on the trims both the S14 and S15 specs are identical with different wheel sizes. Both trims are what we put in the GTiR hybrid.

The exhaust side is most critical to turbo spool, but it also dictates how much efficiency can be derived from the compressor.

The reason I recommended the S14/S15 ball bearing variant is due to the second hand lottery. If buying a high mileage journal bearing S13/S14 turbo then there is a good chance that it will require a refurb. Couple this with the requirement for a 5-stud flange for the downpipe and a 2.5" inlet hose (need to make sure it has both compressor adapter trumpets), the cost side of things is not so good.

The original GTi-R turbo uses a 0.86 housing which introduces more lag, but does allow more top end performance. The Coupe has a 0.48 housing, so we benefit from greater spool, but reduced top end. Don't forget this is comparing a 2.0 to a 1.8 engine.

Only the S13, with the CA18DET, was a 1.8. S14 and S15 (also the Pulsar) used the SR20DET, 2 litre.

(Although the S13 used both CA18 and SR20 in Japan, only CA18 was used in the UK)

Not here yet as soon as it comes ill put part number on here etc

Bought the compressor trumpets for it all ready just waiting for it to come its all ready had a rebuild done but I'm going get it checked and re-balanced just need to find v band so if anyone spots one either on flea bay drop me a link just found out from him it's a s14