Well as I don't have an under tray, it's exposed to the road dirt and crap.

Don't worry... It's going to be transformed before spa!!

I promise it will be mint just for you Joe!!!

Also, there's no oil... Just dirt... More dirt and a bit more dirt...

you can use that extra bit of pipe work as a walking stick

hahaha thanks!

at the time, it was the only thng i had to hand so it was massivley long.

Now its nice and short

Mate, glad you have persevered in this and if anyone says tuning is easy or within a budget, you know what that it will take twice as long and double the budget.

Keep going mate, you're nearly there

Thanks for the support begbie!

im going to show all my cost on this build..

jsut to put it in persective.

its cost SO much more maily becasue of the stupid things.

i.e Block, Crank, oil pump

but im getting there!!

theres still SO much more to happen..

should make the car a perfect track/road car that you can drive to the shops and go crazy on the way home

Good luck with the fitting and mapping.

Be interesting to see what you get powerwise from it with all those lightened parts.

Ross

Lightened parts doesn't equal more power

Out of interest what does lightend and balanced parts equal?

Good luck!

:-)

Quicker spin up (and down) and a smoother engine plus a little bit extra resilience at top end RPM before it goes bang.

No Christmas presents for the misses

charming!! lol



LOL
i would be shot..

Supposedly...

I had an engine built with lightened and balanced materials and don't notice the difference over my current coupe.

Lightened flywheel is always a good idea and will make the biggest difference.

Ross

i drove a mates car that was the same set up as mine bar a stage 3 hybrid and the difference was night and day.

who built that engine?

Ross, no supposedly about it if it's done properly.

It's down to basic physics and engineering.

Argue with Barbz engine building if you wish..

Ross

I'm quite happy that I know what I'm talking about here and I'm guessing all these motorsport companies don't do it just for the fun of it.

So that's a direct quote from Barbz that balancing and lightening is a waste of time?

What quote do you refer to? Or are you arguing with my personal opinion?

Ross

Tbh Ross, if you think lightening and balancing all the engine components is a waste of time...

You must of wasted your money with Barbz.

Why would Barbz build and sell some thing thats pointless??

Barbz - if you read this, share your opinions on a lighten and balanced engine please

Well done Marco, you are one of a kind

Ross, so you mentioned Barbz because....................

Definitely "Special"

Research and development can be hit or miss.

Yes it would have been better than non lightened/balanced, but there was no obvious advantages on our setup's, hence I didn't go the same way this time.



I noticed you didn't answer my question. The answer to yours is on this thread. Read back over it.

Ross

Ahh Ross is doing his usual and talking out an orifice not normally associated with speech!

And you continuing with your "holier than thou" attitude as usual.

Again you've avoided the question.

Please enlighten me with your infinite wisdom with regards to your experiences with balanced and lightened components on the coupe?

You made an issue out of this, I was not having a go at you, I was simply stating my opinion. You on the otherhand are clearly bored on a Friday night. Fortunately I'm getting paid to type this reply to you.

Ross

p.s. sorry Marco, I wasn't having a go at you. Would like to see your results to compare what I found with mine. As I said, all the best.

Put them away chaps,i know its Friday night so a beer and a fight is on the cards but leave that for the younger generation.

In short :-

I have been playing with lightened components for years both at a personal interest and for customers vehicles.

Lightening offers no noticeable advantage for performance in general on the same platform.

Every 20vt i have driven performs differently and no two are comparable from factory.

I have also built numerous engines to the same spec,some have 3 bar oil pressure,some have 1 bar hot.
Some make 300 bhp others make 360 on the same identical setup.
Theres no rule of thumb for expected performance.

In terms of balancing as far as im concerned can be argued both ways.
The first assumption is the less weight a mechanical component in rotation has then the less mechanical resistance.
In the old days turning on aircon and other ancillaries would make a noticeable difference to engine performance.
Mechanical drag/weight is no different so in theory it should make a difference all be it marginal.

The reason i always lightened components is to increase the engines life and the balancing helps against mechanical resonance or frequency at higher rpm.

Ontop of this EVERY little thing in turn add upto alot in the end even if its only a few digits.

So there isnt a yes or no to it.
Yes it should make a difference but i never notice it.

Coming from the person who can't post in the correct place lol

Yes I can (occasionally) act like a grown up!

Ross

Can I take this opportunity to apologise.
Obviously you are right and I am wrong!
Cynicism and trolling frustrate me however
Knowing this should allow me to rise above it!

It will not happen again.

Good for you mate

Fair do's Marco, I'd have thrown in the towel a long time ago and would have retreated to a forest to pretend to be a squirrel. A red one.


PS I think Ross/Duffy are the same person with multiple personality disorder