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Rust
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30/05/2010 11:47
30/05/2010 11:47
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Nigel
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Dammit - I decided to treat a patch of rust at the front of the drivers door step, where it curves up to the A pillar - as I scraped the flaky rust off, there it was - my first hole I know there's rust elsewhere, so I'm now faced with the choice of re-shelling or restoring There's strong arguments for each choice, and I reckon the cost would be roughly similar at about two grand What do you think?
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Re: Rust
[Re: samsite999]
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30/05/2010 12:18
30/05/2010 12:18
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Well Nigel I'm going to state the obvious, the only way to stop the dreaded red stuff is to cut it out. You may be able to make good, but you will probably find more red stuff the further you delve. Modern day chemicals are pretty good but only stave off for a little longer. If you choose to patch up, you will be using filler as well. Tough one right enough.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Rust
[Re: bridges]
#1045030
30/05/2010 19:50
30/05/2010 19:50
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Marco20valveT
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Nigel, I would re-shell her.
That way you can sort any little niggles out, may be do some race mods to the shell!!
But it's your choice !!!
There are a few sprinty shells coming up for sale soon and I bet Joe (CC) can get you a few! Lol
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Re: Rust
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
#1045047
30/05/2010 20:23
30/05/2010 20:23
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johnnybravoturbo
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Didnt you have this painted not long ago with your insurance.? If so surely there must be some sort of a claim there. Its weird how these coupes seem to rust individually. I sub out all my bodywork to a place down the road that i have used for years. There second to non with the finish. He replaced a rear 1/4 panel and both outer sills on a coupe a few months back for me and said they were very easy to do.
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Re: Rust
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#1045101
30/05/2010 22:23
30/05/2010 22:23
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Taz
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Once they begin to Rust Nigel, no amount of work will restore it, sorry. If it were me, I'd reshell or do something else I won't say on the web.. I'm serious BTW shell quality is crap, you'd be better off to get a donor shell, BARE & rework the whole thing, that means on a cradle & strip etc...NOT cheap, .....actually it's VERY cheap prepping if you do it yourself, I reshelled a car on my own years ago, easy, but depends how FUSSY you are. Even my old bucket has a sign of rust, treated so far, but I know It'll come back, compared to your mileage, you've done massively well No car maker makes them to last, or else they'd all be out of business
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Re: Rust
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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31/05/2010 11:26
31/05/2010 11:26
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Who's going to bother spending a couple of grand treating rust on a car that's worth less? ME! probably
Gone Audi mad!
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Re: Rust
[Re: Barmybob]
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31/05/2010 12:56
31/05/2010 12:56
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Don't forget with using a second hand shell that the vin is locked with the reg. number.
If you wanted to use your exsisting reg. number either use a brand new unregistered shell ( with proper reciept) or transfer your present number off, with the DVLA, while it's still mot'ed.
Please note you CANNOT transfer your exsisting number to an OLDER shell.
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Re: Rust
[Re: Barmybob]
#1045321
31/05/2010 13:38
31/05/2010 13:38
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Who's going to bother spending a couple of grand treating rust on a car that's worth less? ME! probably What he said. But then, I can't help taking the view that it's like a house. You get it how *you* want it, and sod the resale value...
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Re: Rust
[Re: barnacle]
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05/06/2010 14:22
05/06/2010 14:22
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Nigel
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Ah well - decision made I've taken advice from three people whose opinion I really trust - Carlt, Paul at Motormech and John at EuroEast. All three have said that transferring my go-faster bits to a good, late shell is the way to go So - I think I'll run with the rustbucket for the remainder of the year, or until a suitable donor car turns up. Shame really, but I'm not THAT attached to the car that I'm willing to throw silly money at keeping it alive However, it does mean that when I find a good car, there will be quite a few bits becoming available as they're stripped off - watch this space
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Re: Rust
[Re: Barmybob]
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05/06/2010 15:57
05/06/2010 15:57
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Who's going to bother spending a couple of grand treating rust on a car that's worth less? ME! probably And me, I'm spending close to 2K on the car. I didn't even pay that for it! What I'm saying is, what "normal" ie none enthusiast would spend that? My sister was moaning yesterday she was fed up of getting "big bills" getting her 106 through the MOT. £200 - WOW Nige - I think it's time for another 355
Coopless!
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Re: Rust
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
#1048242
05/06/2010 20:25
05/06/2010 20:25
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RobShed
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Can't understand this rust issue. Mine is a '95 vintage with a tiny 1/2 penny moon on 1 rear wheel inner arch edge. Absolutely no rust anywhere else even in those hard to find places. Perhaps galvanising was better on earlier models. Let's not also forget that rust can also indicate a poor repair. This isn't meant to wind-up the 20V boys, just an observation. BTW, you can buy my shell for 1500 quid.
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Re: Rust
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05/06/2010 22:37
05/06/2010 22:37
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Nigel
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Can't understand this rust issue. Might be down to the miles - its driven in all weathers - salt has taken its toll over the years, as does driving through the big floods a couple of years ago (had water coming up the bonnet )
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Re: Rust
[Re: barnacle]
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06/06/2010 09:45
06/06/2010 09:45
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The one that concerns me is the corners of the boot, at that seam along the sides. Looks very tricky to fix properly. Not wishing to alarm you, but that's the straw that broke the camel's back with my car - all the other rusty bits are relatively easy fixes, but according to Carlt, the joint of the boot floor to the wheelarch is actually a three-layer pressing and is very complex - this was Carlt's comment:- an to repair as there are 3 skins there and you cant do it properly without cutting the inner & outer quarters off. So all you can do is "plate" it, which wont last more than 2-3 years. It was this comment that made my decision - the last thing I want to do is throw several thousand pounds at restoring the car, only to be going back again in three years
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Re: Rust
[Re: barnacle]
#1048705
06/06/2010 22:23
06/06/2010 22:23
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johnnybravoturbo
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Can't understand this rust issue. Mine is a '95 vintage with a tiny 1/2 penny moon on 1 rear wheel inner arch edge. Absolutely no rust anywhere else even in those hard to find places. Perhaps galvanising was better on earlier models. Let's not also forget that rust can also indicate a poor repair. This isn't meant to wind-up the 20V boys, just an observation. wink BTW, you can buy my shell for 1500 quid. laugh I never see a spot of rust on the 16v's or even the 20v n/a's.. Was having this very discussion today at Chatsworth. Weird.The p plate coupes are always good and the newer they get the worse the rust is.
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