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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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15/06/2010 15:30
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plasticomnium
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Haven't tried this but I am sure that with the specs of the Coupe, Superflex or Powerflex can supply adequate parts... Superflex has hundreds of those Link Pin bushes: http://www.superflex.co.uk/products.php?cat=394Try to contact Christine @ superflex, nice and helpful.. Hope this helps.. Jochen
Bravo 20VT Plus, Gtech1, K&N57i, Blueflame 2.75+race cat, OMP strut hi+lo, BC coils, AP brake 328x28
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: plasticomnium]
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15/06/2010 16:51
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I got some for my sloppy 16vt many moons ago. They weren't listed but i sent them an OE one and i got something very similar back. It wasn't an exact copy but fitted with no issues.
I've never got round to doing the same with the others but i think its worthwhile invesigating, esp for people running with Eibachs etc, definite improvement and will last far longer.
Possible group buy?
This is how it should have come out of Torino!
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Rob40]
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15/06/2010 18:28
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Good find there Jochen, thank you. All I need now is the spec of the standard item, does anyone have lying around a standard rubber bush and can put the dimentions on here. http://www.superflex.co.uk/datasheets/SuperflexLinkpinbushes.pdfThere must be a similar bush in that little lot that will do the job.
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Nigel]
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15/06/2010 22:30
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mattB
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It doesn't really work on lowered coupes because the angles end up wrong and everything gets loaded up before it's supposed to.
My last set had a lifespan of about 2000 miles before they were toast.
Death-rattle-tastic
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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16/06/2010 07:26
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You'd really need to take measurements off the wishbone. The rubber ones squidge into the recess which wouldn't happen with PU - you'd need to find some that were a bit tapered and pretty much the correct depth without needing squished.
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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16/06/2010 17:15
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paul
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I`ll check my `parts bin` in the garage,usually keep loads of crap, sorry old bits, lying around, if not totally knackered
was Paul S,now just paul...Member since Oct 2000,Coupe may be FATALLY injured - :(oh no it's not
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: paul]
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16/06/2010 18:42
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I`ll check my `parts bin` in the garage,usually keep loads of crap, sorry old bits, lying around, if not totally knackered and please let us know the dimensions, surely Jimbo is not alone with his problem... Greetz, Jochen
Bravo 20VT Plus, Gtech1, K&N57i, Blueflame 2.75+race cat, OMP strut hi+lo, BC coils, AP brake 328x28
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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16/06/2010 18:42
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johnnybravoturbo
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These bushes arent the best in design, they sit low and are in a high water area. So perishing is seen usually afer 2 years even on new ones.
Nothing to do with the stiffness i wouldnt think.
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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18/06/2010 11:00
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Nobby
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I'd be interested in a set - mine seem to get destroyed after a few months.
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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18/06/2010 11:45
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Davie
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Let us all know the measurements Jimbo, would be good to see if we can replace them with a harder material...
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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18/06/2010 23:00
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Davie
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Hi Jimbo, originally i was from the Garstang area then moved towards Bowerham, now near St Martins College if you know that?
Davie
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: paul]
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21/06/2010 18:47
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Marco20valveT
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I would be up for a set of these too.
Mine are buggered!
For the sake of a few quid I would happily buy a new drop link and send it to you Jimbo...
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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01/07/2010 10:24
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Nobby
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Is it just so that you don't massively overtighten/compress them?
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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01/07/2010 20:18
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Akeme
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I would get bushes that are the the same diameter but not quite as deep or fitting them might be a real struggle.
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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02/07/2010 10:11
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paul
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I'm not sure Paul, if the rubber was going to split, it would just pull away from the metal centre and do so anyway.
I can understand bushes that act on a hinge using a metal insert, wishbones, etc, but these drop link bushes don't have any rotational stresses on them. Ah I was talking about the top bush in the drop link, sorry, not the `sandwich` bush at the bottom over/under the wishbone,the ones you`ve gone for look ok to me looking forward to results
was Paul S,now just paul...Member since Oct 2000,Coupe may be FATALLY injured - :(oh no it's not
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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02/07/2010 11:57
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Davie
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Thats exactly what I've done These are 4mm shorter. Which ones have you purchased Jimbo, care to share the sizes and/or part number of the universal bush? Many thanks Davie
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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02/07/2010 12:08
02/07/2010 12:08
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Marco20valveT
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if we can get the size of the bush i can set up a group buy of just the bush's!
should be an easy upgrade!
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Gunzi]
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12/07/2010 08:56
12/07/2010 08:56
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Gunzi
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Have you had a chance to fit these Jimbo? Any chance of the part numbers you ordered?
Last edited by Gunzi; 12/07/2010 08:58. Reason: part no's
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Gunzi]
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13/07/2010 10:13
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Marco20valveT
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look forward to this Jimbo!!
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Gunzi]
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21/07/2010 16:48
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Nobby
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Yeh Jimbo, I'm on the edge of my seat 'ere!
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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21/07/2010 17:02
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Yes they are fitted.
I was doing some mileage on them first to see if any split appear as I'm a bit worried about the fitment.
Let me get the laptop rigged up later and I'll post some pics but I'll briefly explain.
These bushes although they look harder than rubber are actually softer, this means the torque of the bolt retaining them needs to be quite a bit less. I tried the usual torque but it was squashing the bush around the outside of the washer that retains them. I slackened them off and adjusted them visually to what looked like a good compromise between fitted correctly and too tight. That's the story so far, there are no clunks or clonks and I swear it feels less harsh due to the softer compound of the polyurathane but that could just be me.
So, I'm running them to make sure they don't fail, I'm going to look through the catalogue to see if there are any other designs that won't squash out as you tighten them up and as for torque settings, well I'm going to work on that to see what's good.
I will probably tighten these up so they fail, just to see at what point it does all go wrong. Remember, the idea behind these was to be a replacement bush that will last, polyurathane is supposed to be tougher than rubber, I'm just surprised at how soft it is !
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Gunzi]
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21/07/2010 22:35
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Nobby
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Thanks Jimbo
Superflex do different grades of PU bushes if I remember correctly?
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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10/09/2010 17:56
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nedge2k
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*bump* any updates? just had one of my bushes disappear - literally - so thought i'd swap em to polys while i was there
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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07/10/2010 09:13
07/10/2010 09:13
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nedge2k
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Decided to just get a new drop link from the local motor factor - it actually looks alot tougher than the std Fiat one. The ARB bushes included that sandwich the wishbone have metal collars inserted, which not only stops you over tightening them but also should firm things up further The drop link was is by First Line, part number FDL6339. I got it less VAT at trade cost for £7.73
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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27/10/2010 10:01
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Marco20valveT
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any news on this?
im about to do all of my suspension on the coupe so im itching to to see if its worth the upgrade or just use standard!!
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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27/10/2010 10:04
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Marco20valveT
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just noticed alot of the Alfa guys have done the same!
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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27/10/2010 12:50
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Marco20valveT
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im going with standard then.
or work out a way to get a metal centre pushed into them.
Jimbo, can you send me the diementions of the drop link rubber?
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
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27/10/2010 12:51
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Marco20valveT
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Also...
what if we had a solid metal bush??
does any one think that would work?
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Re: Uprated Anti-Roll Bar Bushes
[Re: Jimbo]
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28/10/2010 14:31
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Marco20valveT
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You have a point! Standard have been ordered!
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