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Thinking of buying a fiat coupe #1104598
20/09/2010 21:25
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Hi, im new to the forum, im looking for advice on what to look for when buying a coupe, which one is the better 16vt or 20vt, any info would be much appreciated. thanks confused

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1104650
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Hi and welcome, if your first Coupe is a 16vt then you will always believe that 16's are the original and best, if it's a 20vt then you'll look down your nose at the 16 valve paupers. laugh

Choice is yours!

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1104701
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how old are you?

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1104702
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what's your budget for purchasing, and what are you able to spend on repairs/maintenance annually?

welcome to a great forum by the way cool

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1104709
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The 20VT is better laugh Welcome

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1104714
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Just buy one good one of each. Smiles a plenty are yours smile

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1104716
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Originally Posted By: proccy
what's your budget for purchasing, and what are you able to spend on repairs/maintenance annually?


Is there really a difference nowadays between the 2...

Cars are cheap which ever model you buy

Parts are available which ever model you buy, although 20s are more in supply than 16s due to more cars being broken, thus parts should be cheaper for the 20s

Maintenance should be similar, both cars are fragile and need full and proper servicing, again if anything the 20s is better here due to the likes of Rog servicing it, where as he doesn't the 16s

Insurance neither are cheap

Petrol consumption not much difference

20vts are newer, but they are stll 10 year old cars and are suffering their age a little, as is the 16

I just can't really see a difference any more, so in that respect try them both, get the best your budget can afford.

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: JimO] #1104750
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16VT is thirstier and has noticeably more turbo lag (which can actually make it feel just as quick as the more powerful 20vt, as the power comes in with a bit of a thump)

16vt is slightly better handling, due to the lighter engine, although the 20vt can catch up with some well judged handling mods

20vt sounds nicer, especially with a nice exhaust - very characterful exhaust note from the five-pot

16vt will reach classic status sooner than the 20vt for two reasons - age and rarity (its older and there are far less of them around)

OK - here's a contentious opinion

If you want one purely to own and polish and take out for occasional drives on sunny weekends, the 16vt is probably the one to have (in fact I'd prefer the 16v N/A for purity)

However, if you want a Coupe to use as a daily driver and reliable workhorse, a five-pot variant is the best solution, due to its more modern engine (and engine management) AND its notably lower gearing, which makes for a pretty relaxed mile-muncher

Either way, you need to buy on condition and history - age and mileage are almost irrelevant now


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Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1105025
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Originally Posted By: gary2302
Hi, im new to the forum, im looking for advice on what to look for when buying a coupe, which one is the better 16vt or 20vt, any info would be much appreciated. thanks confused


Cambelt, Clutch and Turbo are the big three, expensive jobs for both so make sure they have been done recently.


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Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Nigel] #1105095
21/09/2010 16:45
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
However, if you want a Coupe to use as a daily driver and reliable workhorse, a five-pot variant is the best solution, due to its more modern engine (and engine management) AND its notably lower gearing, which makes for a pretty relaxed mile-muncher

Either way, you need to buy on condition and history - age and mileage are almost irrelevant now


I think you mean higher gearing smile


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Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Tommy_Coop23] #1105098
21/09/2010 16:50
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20vt, sounds better than the 16vt. Shop around, take as many as possible for test drives. There are soooo many about at the moment so take you time and pick a good one that has been looked after, don't buy one from someone who knows nothing about the car.


Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: jame5] #1105124
21/09/2010 17:38
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As just posted in another thread, spent £1.5K on my 20VT in May, fully aware that I would need to at least double that on making sure that everything was working. In fact spent considerably more already (although not all was needed to keep the car going).

Worth every penny, but do not be fooled by any cheap purchase prices. This is NOT performance motoring on the cheap; this is performance motoring which requires wallet damage (same as any other performance motoring), with a fairly low starting price.

Worth every penny though smile , so good luck,

Tim

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Tommy_Coop23] #1105130
21/09/2010 17:45
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Originally Posted By: Tommy_Coop23
Originally Posted By: gary2302
Hi, im new to the forum, im looking for advice on what to look for when buying a coupe, which one is the better 16vt or 20vt, any info would be much appreciated. thanks confused


Cambelt, Clutch and Turbo are the big three, expensive jobs for both so make sure they have been done recently.


Oil Cooler pipes, Radiator .. also likely will be need replacing given the cars age.

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1105193
21/09/2010 19:03
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a big thank you to everyone who has replied,i've been looking around for about a month now and your advice will come in very handy when buying one, it wont be used as an everyday car so i need to pick the right one because i intend to keep it for a long time. cheers again

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1105194
21/09/2010 19:05
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hi, im 48 why do you ask? confused

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1105221
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Originally Posted By: gary2302
hi, im 48 why do you ask? confused


because it would appear that most new people of late are relativity young, there is a big insurance gap between the 20vt and the 16vt not to mention that most youngsters (did I just say that) often fall in to the trap of cheep to buy VERY expensive to run and then slate it when it expires in a shower of pistons and valves

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: samsite999] #1105235
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Welcome to the forum and good luck in your purchase. Have a look through the FAQ section. You will find there is a wealth of knowledge on this forum smile

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Gunzi] #1105350
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Hi Gary and welcome smile

Have a read through the buyers guide: http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=7718#Post7718

Take it with you when viewing a Coupe if need be.

Otherwise, just be aware of some prices for things like cambelts, etc., keep some spare cash back and buy one that takes your fancy cool

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Theresa] #1106129
23/09/2010 17:15
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Hi Garry,welcome to the forum! Its a must be place if your buying a coupe! Please listen to the advice given from the old and wise on here,oh and Stan too!
Its a cracking little car ,go for the 20vt and smile smile smile! Well until it goes pop! wink
Good Luck,Paul

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1106978
25/09/2010 19:43
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hi everyone, just want to let you all know that i've just purchased my first coupe,all the info that everyone posted to me came to good use so a big thank you to you all.Its a standard 16vt in mint condition, everything checked and worked as it should. Im collecting it in 2 weeks time as im working away, so i cant wait.

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1106979
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Congrats, hope you enjoy it and the next 2 weeks don't drag on for tooooo long smile

Dunno why you never bought a 20VT though shocked

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Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: JimO] #1106983
25/09/2010 19:54
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Pics and details of your new acquisition?!

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Hovedan] #1107014
25/09/2010 21:31
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will post some pic's on when i can work out how to do it lol, got some on computor but trying to transfer them to forum

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1107022
25/09/2010 21:55
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Open a photobucket account, free and simple.

Did you buy a car from the forum, or got a link to the ad?

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Hovedan] #1107765
27/09/2010 18:22
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Gary,
welcome to the community thumb . As a new owner myself I cannot overemphasise how much help this forum can be. Join the club, come to some meets and soak up all the available knowledge readily on tap. Whatever you need to know will be available; if you cannot DIY, then you will be able to find someone that can do it for you.. don't EVER take the Coupe to a FIAT franchise (unless you have inside info), as they are too rare for anyone used to sorting out Puntos and Mareas to give the spot-on advice required to keep your machine in tip-top nick,

good luck and happy driving laugh

Tim

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1107778
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thanks for advise tim42, will be attending some meets to get some knowledge and info on car, i would never take a car to dealer for work done anyway but cheers anyway

Re: some pic's of my fiat coupe [Re: ] #1108864
29/09/2010 18:28
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Last edited by gary2302; 29/09/2010 20:18.
Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: ] #1108896
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Is that a sneaky yellow Integrale sitting on your drive too?

Re: Thinking of buying a fiat coupe [Re: Hovedan] #1108912
29/09/2010 19:49
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i wish, its an awesome motor, no thats where i bought it from, haven't had time to go and pick the coupe up yet due to work commitments, picking it up on 9th

Re: oil change on 16vt [Re: ] #1111621
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Hi everyone, picking up my 16vt coupe on saturday and one of the first jobs on my to-do list is to give an oil and filter change. Can any one let me know the best oil to use or do i use whats recommended in handbook. Thanks

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