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Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap #1189392 22/03/2011 16:00 22/03/2011 16:00
C couper Unregistered
couper Unregistered C	Been challenged to run at santapod against a focus ST with a remap (not sure which might be bluefin) What are my chances?

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189394 22/03/2011 16:01 22/03/2011 16:01
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couper Unregistered C	20VT standard apart from flea remap.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189399 22/03/2011 16:10 22/03/2011 16:10
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,390 Essex Trappy Forum is my life
Trappy Forum is my life Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,390 Essex	Originally Posted By: couper Been challenged to run at santapod against a focus ST with a remap (not sure which might be bluefin) What are my chances? If you match him off the line, you'll probably monster him. F**** b**** thing...

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189404 22/03/2011 16:26 22/03/2011 16:26
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couper Unregistered C	Hee Hee! Had a couple of in gear runs from 20 - 70 and kept up and didn't feel that the coupe got chance to get going properly! FAO Mod's: This was done on a very very long private driveway of Mr Focus's dads house!!

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189405 22/03/2011 16:27 22/03/2011 16:27
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couper Unregistered C	I better practice my starts then!! Probably much easier to get off the line in the Focus?

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189411 22/03/2011 16:32 22/03/2011 16:32
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,252 Windsor/ Reading knight7660 Competition Level
knight7660 Competition Level Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,252 Windsor/ Reading	what did your coupe make after the flea map? LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189422 22/03/2011 16:55 22/03/2011 16:55
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Marco20valveT Unregistered M	you should do him if you can master the launch. good luck!!

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189461 22/03/2011 18:45 22/03/2011 18:45
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couper Unregistered C	Flea guessed about 260ish

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189463 22/03/2011 18:53 22/03/2011 18:53
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jonnybgt1759 Unregistered J	You will win as long you get a decent start!! In third gear the focus will be going backwards. Last edited by jonnybgt1759; 22/03/2011 18:54.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189517 22/03/2011 20:24 22/03/2011 20:24
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tomlough Unregistered T	My mate had a bluefi st or dream science and my flea mapped coupe owned his ass. My money's on the coupe.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189634 22/03/2011 23:24 22/03/2011 23:24
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doug20vt Unregistered D	i would think it would be very close, not sure what the gear ratios on a focus are but i would guess they are slightly shorter making it more accelerative and it will probably have more torque and better traction however it is heavier and probably more strangled at the top end than a coupe i would think it will come down to who can launch the car better better to do a rolling start then you take the launch out of the equation and get more of an idea as to what would be faster in the real world

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189647 22/03/2011 23:57 22/03/2011 23:57
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 225 london L lenzoferrari Making a profit
lenzoferrari Making a profit L Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 225 london	wel if your coupe is standard you be getting raped lol st focus with a bluefin map goes well mate of mine has got one pull off is not good at all spins to much so you will have him there but i would say get your coupe mapped if you aint already just makes it fair

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1189825 23/03/2011 13:35 23/03/2011 13:35
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DanielTheManual Unregistered D	Just make sure you video it and post a link on here

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: lenzoferrari] #1190462 24/03/2011 13:40 24/03/2011 13:40
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,390 Essex Trappy Forum is my life
Trappy Forum is my life Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,390 Essex	Originally Posted By: lenzoferrari wel if your coupe is standard you be getting raped lol st focus with a bluefin map goes well mate of mine has got one pull off is not good at all spins to much so you will have him there but i would say get your coupe mapped if you aint already just makes it fair His Coupe is mapped, it's in the second post. A standard ST is NOWHERE near as fast as a standard 20vT so I see no reason why it would 'rape' a Standard 20vT after a simple remap... Without mechanical modifications, it' just another hot hatch with a massive torque spike so far down the rev band that it isn't used in a through-the-gears blast. F**** b**** thing...

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190486 24/03/2011 14:03 24/03/2011 14:03
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tomlough Unregistered T	ST's are poor, my mate had one for a month before he got rid of it, this was with a dream science chip to, very heavy indeed he has a new rs now and my mapped coupe keeps up with this when their both rolling.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190501 24/03/2011 14:25 24/03/2011 14:25
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	Originally Posted By: tomlough very heavy indeed Not really - they're only listed at 50kg more than the Coupe and they have the same power and a bit more torque

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190507 24/03/2011 14:30 24/03/2011 14:30
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,090 highlands jimboy Club Member 857
jimboy Club Member 857 Forum is my life Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,090 highlands	As said if you can launch properly, it's in the bag for you. When you get to mid range, the Coops party piece will kick in (literally) In saying all that the ST isn't exactly a slouch, but from a 2.5 turbo 5 pot to boot, more modern etc, you would have expected more power. I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190533 24/03/2011 15:03 24/03/2011 15:03
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917 J JimO Forum veteran
JimO Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917	Having owned both cars in this comparison, the coupe will not easily win, yes its faster in a straight line in 3rd gear, but the ST will launch flawlessy every single time. So the coupe will be playing catch up in 1st and 2nd gear, so its only once 3rd gear is reached that it will over take, at which point both cars will be into the regions of 70mph and you will run out of drag strip. So if you can't launch your coop well be prepared for a very marginal win or worse. Also, don't race him round a corner!

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190551 24/03/2011 15:47 24/03/2011 15:47
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tomlough Unregistered T	My money's on the coupe that's all I'm saying, if I knew how to put videos on here I would show you why I say this.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190554 24/03/2011 15:49 24/03/2011 15:49
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917 J JimO Forum veteran
JimO Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917	You can't put videos on here you can put them on youtube and link them if you really want, but I imagine you have some videos of a coupe aginst a Focus ST and the coop winning!

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190578 24/03/2011 16:32 24/03/2011 16:32
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tomlough Unregistered T	Yeah and not got 2 standard ones and tue coupe wins then me and my mates old one, my bhp was 268 and his was never tested but a lot more than standard.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: Trappy] #1190832 24/03/2011 23:26 24/03/2011 23:26
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lenzoferrari Making a profit L Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 225 london	trappy you are right coupe vs st both standard coupe will win everyday of the week ... but a mapped st are not slow by any means .. my mate montune st is running 330 on as stage one map

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190839 24/03/2011 23:36 24/03/2011 23:36
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tomlough Unregistered T	Montune is a different story, the guy says it's a bluefin, basically the same as gtec, montune is quality my mate at work has a fiesta st and they have worked wonders on that.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: lenzoferrari] #1190849 24/03/2011 23:49 24/03/2011 23:49
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jonnybgt1759 Unregistered J	Originally Posted By: lenzoferrari trappy you are right coupe vs st both standard coupe will win everyday of the week ... but a mapped st are not slow by any means .. my mate montune st is running 330 on as stage one map Stage one map from mountune qoutes 260bhp to achieve 330 bhp you would require much more than a map bolt ons etc also the engine is a little fragile beyond 300bhp

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190860 25/03/2011 00:28 25/03/2011 00:28
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tomlough Unregistered T	Go on YouTube and search st dreamscience, if I could post I link I would, their is a 314bhp st and it is suprisingly poor. The poor guy gets a lot of abusive comments...

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190868 25/03/2011 01:16 25/03/2011 01:16
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 225 london L lenzoferrari Making a profit
lenzoferrari Making a profit L Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 225 london	that is true but some engine has just got that x factor and some aint my mate st has a full 3" mongoose exhaust with a montune map thats all .....

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190883 25/03/2011 06:19 25/03/2011 06:19
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tomlough Unregistered T	Yeah and look how it pulls, for the bhp it's not what you'd expect.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: lenzoferrari] #1190892 25/03/2011 08:33 25/03/2011 08:33
J jonnybgt1759 Unregistered
jonnybgt1759 Unregistered J	Originally Posted By: lenzoferrari that is true but some engine has just got that x factor and some aint my mate st has a full 3" mongoose exhaust with a montune map thats all ..... Well that car cant be running 330 bhp end of 265-270 at most! Simon cowell doesnt let engines audtion yet Last edited by jonnybgt1759; 25/03/2011 08:34.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190911 25/03/2011 09:27 25/03/2011 09:27
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tomlough Unregistered T	He has. Fmic too the video I seen and the usual filters etc.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1190943 25/03/2011 10:38 25/03/2011 10:38
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johnnybravoturbo Unregistered J	The St is a very underpowered car for its engines capabilities. The volvo T5 is a brilliant engine that sees well over 200,000 miles without a spanner touching it. Ideally the replacement for a coupe for someone after a similar engine without the hassle. I myself have the T5 in my car and although heavier it will out drag a coupe on a straight line.I wish it didnt in a way but its a fantastic engine. The 2.3 engine is the best as it can run higher boost. Other than the rods being weak on the earlier engine its almost hassle free motoring. But money aside i enjoy driving the coupe even in standard form,and it puts a smile on my face everytime whereas the T5 is a more mature car and much refined.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1191135 25/03/2011 18:00 25/03/2011 18:00
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick Enjoying the ride
TurboNick Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo The St is a very underpowered car for its engines capabilities. The volvo T5 is a brilliant engine that sees well over 200,000 miles without a spanner touching it. Ideally the replacement for a coupe for someone after a similar engine without the hassle. I myself have the T5 in my car and although heavier it will out drag a coupe on a straight line.I wish it didnt in a way but its a fantastic engine. The 2.3 engine is the best as it can run higher boost. Other than the rods being weak on the earlier engine its almost hassle free motoring. But money aside i enjoy driving the coupe even in standard form,and it puts a smile on my face everytime whereas the T5 is a more mature car and much refined. You have a T5 lump in your car!!?? Why is this the first i have heard of this!? Back to topic it will be very close but i think the coop will just edge it lets not forget he has to change gears one extra time just to get to 100. Nick

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: TurboNick] #1191400 26/03/2011 13:01 26/03/2011 13:01
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran
pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales	My mate's got an ST, standard it's just torquey but not all that fast. I leave it for dead in my Flea map coop. I don't think a remap would change things in his favour much. Coopless!

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1191433 26/03/2011 14:24 26/03/2011 14:24
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tomlough Unregistered T	He means his Volvo nick, that red c70

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1191764 27/03/2011 00:42 27/03/2011 00:42
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697 TurboNick Enjoying the ride
TurboNick Enjoying the ride Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 697	Oh so that's why I haven't heard of it lol maybe that was a bit of a blond moment on my behalf Sorry. no offence to blonds Last edited by TurboNick; 27/03/2011 00:43.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: TurboNick] #1191766 27/03/2011 00:52 27/03/2011 00:52
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Paul_H Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: TurboNick Oh so that's why I haven't heard of it lol maybe that was a bit of a blond moment on my behalf Sorry. no offence to blonds too late! offence taken

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1191790 27/03/2011 06:21 27/03/2011 06:21
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zimpara Unregistered Z	i think the only thing that would stop me beasting a st would be me being very kind on my clutch. unless im rolling i never pounce. i just sleep zzzzzzzzzzz change to 2nd (POUNCE!!!!! power power power lol

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1191840 27/03/2011 08:25 27/03/2011 08:25
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,620 S Wales chrissy Tourque Italia member!
chrissy Tourque Italia member! Forum is my job Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,620 S Wales	what on earth are you doing up @ 05:21!

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1191886 27/03/2011 11:33 27/03/2011 11:33
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,486 London Tan technics I need some sleep
technics I need some sleep Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,486 London Tan	Good question, but your not much better for a Sunday. Last edited by technics; 27/03/2011 11:47. Now in the 400+ bhp club!

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: chrissy] #1192101 27/03/2011 22:39 27/03/2011 22:39
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zimpara Unregistered Z	Originally Posted By: chrissy what on earth are you doing up @ 05:21! I had just finished servicing the misses. No I work nights, lol

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1196925 05/04/2011 20:20 05/04/2011 20:20
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rAzOr_20vt Unregistered R	Originally Posted By: zimpara Originally Posted By: chrissy what on earth are you doing up @ 05:21! I had just finished servicing the misses. No I work nights, lol Weyheyy giggidy giggidy, ow riight!! .... When is the Flea'd coop versus ST happening then?

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1196937 05/04/2011 20:33 05/04/2011 20:33
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BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered B	May aswell go against the Rs because the ST's are slooow even the mapped ones are patheticly slow. I batter focus RS's not even close

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1196967 05/04/2011 21:30 05/04/2011 21:30
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johnnybravoturbo Unregistered J	Originally Posted By: BoostMeCoupeUp May aswell go against the Rs because the ST's are slooow even the mapped ones are patheticly slow. I batter focus RS's not even close Dont talk daft,these puff's who drive these cars need to swap with me and i will teach you Leicester chavs a lesson or two volvo t5 style. Its about time you went up 21 nasem so you can see how the big boys drive. None of this 40-90 rubbish.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1197013 05/04/2011 22:20 05/04/2011 22:20
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BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered B	Big boys drive?? jbt didn't you only beat me by 0.1 seconds down pod lol and you own your own garage! Where as I was running falken tyres, full interior, spare wheel 1.25bar and a heavy set of azevs wheels! You had an extra 150bhp you need me to swap with you! Not the guys that loose to me let you drive lol

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1197193 06/04/2011 10:30 06/04/2011 10:30
J johnnybravoturbo Unregistered
johnnybravoturbo Unregistered J	I had 4 runs and 3 with an ignition missfire,and winning is winning. 0.1 seconds would see you will the formula 1 championship.

Re: Flea'd coupe vs focus ST remap [Re: ] #1197521 06/04/2011 20:07 06/04/2011 20:07
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Zsowner Unregistered Z	No racing stories thanks And now locked due to that ^^ Last edited by JimO; 06/04/2011 20:27.

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