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Recommend me a brake pad
#1193953
30/03/2011 17:49
30/03/2011 17:49
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MattM
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Hello,
I currently use EBC yellostuff, which are great. I have never had any fade, despite lots of trackdays and quite a hard braking style.
However, I am finding that I'm going through a set of pads every 3 or 4 trackdays, and that is with virtually no road miles.
I am not bothered about road performance so can anyone recommend me a pad that will last, not fade and be good on track. I'm thinking some kind of endurance pad.
Regards,
Matt
Last edited by MattM; 30/03/2011 17:50.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1193961
30/03/2011 18:11
30/03/2011 18:11
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mattB
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I'm running XP8's found them very good but the brake dust is bloomin lethal for your wheels. I run them on the road and at Spa and no problems at all, seem to be lasting pretty well too.
I've also been recommended Project Mu (I think that's the correct name) which are supposed to be better than the carbotech pads.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1193975
30/03/2011 18:40
30/03/2011 18:40
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In the coupe.
magooagain
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I like the look of the 10 and 12s,but what disc is going to work the best with them ?
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: mattB]
#1194051
30/03/2011 20:52
30/03/2011 20:52
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Per
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I'm running XP8's found them very good but the brake dust is bloomin lethal for your wheels. I run them on the road and at Spa and no problems at all, seem to be lasting pretty well too. I'd like to second that. They are superior to the EBC Yellow's but not so nice for yer rims.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: Per]
#1194110
30/03/2011 22:21
30/03/2011 22:21
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proccy
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proccy
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what about pagid yellows? had mine on for a year and stop me pretty well and still loads of life....
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1194339
31/03/2011 11:44
31/03/2011 11:44
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Nigel
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Matt - Pagid Yellows are NOT the same as EBC Yellows the Pagids are a genuine endurance pad - I get around 12,000 miles from a pair. The first set I had were on test, with an instruction to try to kill them. At a Bedford trackday, I purposely set out to destroy them. After a very hard day, my calipers were a bright gold colour and my discs were completely knackered. When the pads were inspected, there was a little bit of crumbling on the trailing edge (the hot edge) but they had stood up very well. According to CBP, to get crumbling of the material, I would have been generating temperatures of well over 750 degrees - my discs would certainly have been glowing  Despite the slight crumbling, I refitted the pads and went on to run them for another 10,000 road miles To give you an indication of their durability, the Pagid Yellow is used by the Aston Martin race team at LeMans - they don't change pads at all during the entire race.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1194431
31/03/2011 15:09
31/03/2011 15:09
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: Nigel]
#1194472
31/03/2011 15:51
31/03/2011 15:51
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Warwickshire
gj88
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To give you an indication of their durability, the Pagid Yellow is used by the Aston Martin race team at LeMans - they don't change pads at all during the entire race. That's one hell of an endorsement. I think you've found your pads, Matt.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: Hovedan]
#1194556
31/03/2011 18:36
31/03/2011 18:36
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Taffy20vt
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I have just spoken to Ian at Carbotech and the XP8's for the 20vt are 135+vat + postage. I will see if he can move on price if a few are interested ?
Ex 432bhp  '00 Sprinty 20vt6 '17 S3 Sportback '69 Amazon 131
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1194584
31/03/2011 19:18
31/03/2011 19:18
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Bristol, UK
Hovedan
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I quite like the look of the XP10 or XP12's I'd be interested to hear from someone running these, XP8's are nowhere near the performance of Pagid Yellows.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: Hovedan]
#1194625
31/03/2011 20:20
31/03/2011 20:20
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coopsnoop
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Pagid yellows just benn fitted to my car, and performance is fantastic!
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: Hovedan]
#1194659
31/03/2011 21:28
31/03/2011 21:28
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Sandhurst
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I quite like the look of the XP10 or XP12's I'd be interested to hear from someone running these, XP8's are nowhere near the performance of Pagid Yellows. Either speak to Ian, friendly guy to speak to or have a look on the lancerregister and see there reviews of the XP8
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1194928
01/04/2011 09:19
01/04/2011 09:19
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Lancerregister.com -> forum -> handling, you will find peoples thoughts on them there
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: coupedummy]
#1195032
01/04/2011 12:41
01/04/2011 12:41
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Midlands
MCMike
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What about some Pagid gae specially for Marco 
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1195189
01/04/2011 18:11
01/04/2011 18:11
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Per
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I quite like the look of the XP10 or XP12's I'd be interested to hear from someone running these, XP8's are nowhere near the performance of Pagid Yellows. Either speak to Ian, friendly guy to speak to or have a look on the lancerregister and see there reviews of the XP8 I just wrote I've used them (XP8). They're the best I've had so far when it comes to track use, and I've done some trackdays now. In fact it's hard to imagine Pagid Blue's being that much better.. I certainly haven't got them to fade even once.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1195596
02/04/2011 20:57
02/04/2011 20:57
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Bulgaria
Ferrarist
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I am not bothered about road performance so can anyone recommend me a pad that will last, not fade and be good on track. I'm thinking some kind of endurance pad.
There is always kind of compromise between track and road - no universal pad - it will behave better either on track or road - i'm also stick with Yellow stuff EBC.....it's close to so called "compromise point" between track and road - i'm using yellow ebc on my track Alfa as well, with same result.....discs also counts for wear too.....
Last edited by Ferrarist; 02/04/2011 20:57.
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Re: Recommend me a brake pad
[Re: MattM]
#1196469
04/04/2011 22:24
04/04/2011 22:24
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Leeds
MattM
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Well, i had a little chat with Carbotech and received the following email; Hi Matthew,
Sure no problems, we can offer significant upgrades to the EBC yellowstuff with our XP8 material both in terms of bite, stopping power, temp capability and wear rates, XP10 is another large upgrade again with even more initial bite and temp capability, but if your finding the yellowstuff works ok then XP8 will be a nice strong upgrade for you and offer better wear rates also, how much better is hard to say as every driver, car and braking style is different but would expect a significant increase, although to be fair 4 trackdays to a set of ebc pads is practically unheard of!! so your not doing bad really for what they cost....downside to our pads is they are a lot more costly than the EBC pads but those that switch to ours very rarely go back as the find the extra performance and lifespan far outweigh the extra costs.
Pricing on both the XP8 and XP10 below.
Fiat Coupe 20vt Front - Carbotech Pad Code: CT592
CT592-XP8 @ £135+vat & delivery
CT592-XP10 @ £145+vat & delivery
Uk delivery @ £10+vat for most areas.
I think i am going to try the XP10's. I hear what people are saying about the Pagid's, but i like to be different!
Last edited by MattM; 04/04/2011 22:25.
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