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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1195703
03/04/2011 00:34
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Originally Posted By: 20vtuga
the money is the real problem in portugual and the guy's just think for a project like this if they have just forged engine and big turbo it will run great and reable...
if you start one project like this you have to buy a lot off componets like fulling( pump, injectors, FPR, swril pot etc) cooling (radiator, FMIC, oil cooler etc)pipings (vaccum pipes fmic pipes oil pipe etc) the most important item is the eletronic because if you had a bad map all the engine will sofer and bad...
this is a snow ball you cant put a big big turbo and them run on std fuel system...
cheers for all

carlos não leves a mal mas á muita imformação que faz falta em portugal... não tenho nada contra ti e tens um projecto sem duvida um nivel muito acima do pretender no meu ver claro desejo-te a melhor sorte do mundo... mas já agora e sabes muitos no forum tentaram e partiram devido ao que mencionei e muitos ainda vão partir e é assim que se aprende abraço


if you are who i think you are, i must say speak for yourself, you where the one to do things that way, big turbo, used forged engine, and here we go... results speak for themselves.. Money is everyones problem, with unlimited resources even my mother could get someone to build a fast car for her... Carlos is learning slowly but he will get there, and his general idea in creating this topic is that, trying to gather as much information and opinions as possible, and i'm sorry to say, but I don't think you are an example of someone that can teach him, once again i say, results speak for themselves, i have never had an engine failure in one of my projects and the reason for that is that i take one step at a time, upgrading every part to match the performance of the car...

Finally i just want to say that is funny how my name always comes to the conversation, why do you guys always feel the need to compare everything someone does in Portugal to my project? Carlos has a different idea of what he wants from his car compared to what i want and I respect that, he wants to make a lot of power, i prefer a more driveable car, a car that i can take to track days, drag races but also one that I can drive on sundays, each to their own...

I have always helped Carlos in his Quest, and once again he asked for my help to build a fueling system to match the power he wants, i've learned a lot with my car build, with the help of a lot of people in this forum, wich i can only say thanks, specially flea, and i dont mind to share with anyone what i've learned during the last couple of years...

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1195855
03/04/2011 15:02
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Originally Posted By: pretender


Carlos is learning slowly but he will get there, and his general idea in creating this topic is that, trying to gather as much information and opinions as possible


thanks mate,everything is true what you said...

Originally Posted By: pretender
Carlos has a different idea of what he wants from his car compared to what i want and I respect that, he wants to make a lot of power!


yes I want to do something different, and for this I need all information possible,and I know that Portugal will not get anything about this project...



Originally Posted By: pretender
I have always helped Carlos in his Quest, and once again he asked for my help to build a fueling system to match the power he wants


Once again, it's true what you said,and just want to thank all the help you gave me...

thanks ..chers for All

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1195889
03/04/2011 16:41
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i dont have any engine probs in my coupe only lack of oil presure...

i dont say that you or pretender have money issues i just said that money is a problem in Portugal for info and parts thats why we came here, in quest of info and parts...
pretender you have what is needed to have a car like yours in the way he is...

sorry people bad comunication...

keep going the good work wink

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1195923
03/04/2011 18:51
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Some fanatstic developments there Carlos, I'll catch up with you via email.


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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: Flea] #1196029
03/04/2011 22:36
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Carlos and Pretender keep up the good work smile i think all people in Portugal who loves the Coupé must be proud of your cars and project wink

Cheers.


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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: Flea] #1196038
03/04/2011 22:54
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Originally Posted By: Flea
Some fantastic developments there Carlos, I'll catch up with you via email.


thanks mate laugh

cheers...

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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: LuisFilipe] #1196040
03/04/2011 22:56
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Originally Posted By: LuisFilipe
Carlos and Pretender keep up the good work smile i think all people in Portugal who loves the Coupé must be proud of your cars and project wink

Cheers.


thanks Luis... wink

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1196086
04/04/2011 00:16
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the pumps in the gsracing link i know nothing of though i suspect it may be a little more than the one i meant which is less than £140 deliverd i suspect it was less than that but i can't remember exactly so i have estimated high..anyway the main thing about the one i am using is its exactly the same size as the original and just fits straight in the original swirl pot so its simple ,cheap and can be done by you rather than having to pay

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1196434
04/04/2011 21:23
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ktm,please try to remember where you bought and the price...if you want send pm ok..

cheers..

Carlos

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1206647
25/04/2011 20:06
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more news guys ;-)...
my car is already working and has done 500km...is working very well,and everything is working including AC and other things!I make 1 video,the first few minutes that it worked...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2HUhRIfPE

and pics:

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/22042011534.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/18042011528.jpg[/IMG]

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[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/22042011532.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/23042011538.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/23042011536.jpg[/IMG]

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[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/24042011544.jpg[/IMG]

Now I feel more happy because everything went very well hihihihi...

cheers guys...

Carlos

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1206656
25/04/2011 20:21
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Well done Carlos !! very tidy.



Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1206693
25/04/2011 21:50
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good going Carlos cant wait to see some vids of it going.

looks very tidy well done


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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1206699
25/04/2011 22:02
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thanks guys...
yes, a lot of work to put everything tidy!but I think it's almost perfect,I only do a few more little things and it's ready...

cheers...

Carlos

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1206817
26/04/2011 10:20
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Carlos

I think I heard some strange noises coming from your cat at the beginning of the video.

Les


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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1206867
26/04/2011 12:31
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i think i heard his cat getting sucked in the turbo as well

well done mate it looks great i wish i could have afforded to replace all my under bonnet bits and make it look as new as yours does under there..

anyway you seem to have a good lay out with plenty of room

with the manifold design and where they put the wastegate pipe, along with the shear size of my turbo i am a lot more cramped and but for barbz fabrication work i could never have fitted mine in like you have with space for everything..i have had to remove my aircon rad for now until i can source another fan which will give me some space back..the slimline one i bought originally could not move enough air so had to move everything forward and squeeze originals back in

anyway i am looking forward to seeing what yours can do and good luck with it..

i have done 800+ miles in mine now and have just changed the oil for mobil one as it is going to have the ecu wired in today/tomorrow then mapping thursday and friday.. after that i will dump the mobil 1 and use motul from then on..
i have had a little play with it as i have a gtec 2 hi fuelling in for now so have let revs build off gentle throttle and once i get to 3500rpm and am off closed loop i have given it half throttle a few times and see .8 bar (actuater pressure) virtually instantly ..i cant really go over 4500 or so as i am sure with the standard injectors i am sailing close to the wind anyway but it's certainly picked up well in 4th and 5th considering its unmapped and underfuelled..it will be interesting to compare our set ups

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: skeandubh] #1207013
26/04/2011 19:40
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Originally Posted By: skeandubh
Carlos

I think I heard some strange noises coming from your cat at the beginning of the video.

Les


hehe,this Cat is my mechanic hehehe laugh he was joking

cheers

Carlos

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1207019
26/04/2011 19:48
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Originally Posted By: ktm450exc
i think i heard his cat getting sucked in the turbo as well

well done mate it looks great i wish i could have afforded to replace all my under bonnet bits and make it look as new as yours does under there..

anyway you seem to have a good lay out with plenty of room

with the manifold design and where they put the wastegate pipe, along with the shear size of my turbo i am a lot more cramped and but for barbz fabrication work i could never have fitted mine in like you have with space for everything..i have had to remove my aircon rad for now until i can source another fan which will give me some space back..the slimline one i bought originally could not move enough air so had to move everything forward and squeeze originals back in

anyway i am looking forward to seeing what yours can do and good luck with it..

i have done 800+ miles in mine now and have just changed the oil for mobil one as it is going to have the ecu wired in today/tomorrow then mapping thursday and friday.. after that i will dump the mobil 1 and use motul from then on..
i have had a little play with it as i have a gtec 2 hi fuelling in for now so have let revs build off gentle throttle and once i get to 3500rpm and am off closed loop i have given it half throttle a few times and see .8 bar (actuater pressure) virtually instantly ..i cant really go over 4500 or so as i am sure with the standard injectors i am sailing close to the wind anyway but it's certainly picked up well in 4th and 5th considering its unmapped and underfuelled..it will be interesting to compare our set ups


for now I still do not know, because I just did a maximum 2.500rpm,and 40% throttle,nothing more...because it is too early for me smile
I lost many hours thinking about how I had to, to look like an all original engine,fortunately it is all there, and everything was tidy, with plenty of space..
I have std chip for now,I want put gtec 2,but I don"t have for now,and I have std injectors.. :D,and the car runing and work very very well... laugh
and I"m realy realy happy..thanks for your help and barbz...

cheers my friend...

Carlos

Last edited by carlos_vieira; 26/04/2011 19:49.
Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1207076
26/04/2011 21:28
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Nice work for sure, so you are running an barbz manifold now?

Regards and keep it in one piece.

Remco

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1207095
26/04/2011 22:08
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Originally Posted By: rmouthaan
Nice work for sure, so you are running an barbz manifold now?

Regards and keep it in one piece.

Remco



thanks..
no,I bought this manifold in another place..

cheers

Carlos

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1208825
30/04/2011 23:35
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hi guys...

Today I did a clean space around the engine,now is ready to runing ;-)

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/30042011557.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/30042011558.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/30042011559.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/uel-24/30042011561.jpg[/IMG]

if anyone wants to see my whole project, here are the link to my Facebook page...



my page facebook

cheers


Carlos

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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1208854
01/05/2011 08:26
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By the way. Impressive work smokin


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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216369
18/05/2011 20:31
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Hi Guys..

10 seconds of my car to walk to the turbo GT35 at 5000rpm in 2º and 3º gear and have standard chip and injectors,I only did up to now 50% throttle and 0.5bar of boost...because he still has a few kilometers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGu_6sAj7fg&feature=player_embedded

cheers

Carlos

Last edited by carlos_vieira; 18/05/2011 20:33.
Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216427
18/05/2011 22:13
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Looks great, just a couple of small questions.

What intercooler is that? Looks very well made.

What is the swirl type pot and two pipes that are where the old air box normally is on the front left hand side?

Seriously looking good though. Well done.

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216531
19/05/2011 02:23
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Its the oil filter...

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216785
19/05/2011 16:16
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hi carlos ..sounds and looks good ....i am still working on mine as i have a slight restriction on the hot side ..what internal diameter was your manifold?
i would think you will gain some on spool up when its mapped and in it's final configuration though you have gone big on the turbo!
barbz has done an excellent job on mine considering i have a 600bhp+ turbo i am on full boost by 3200 revs! i wouldn't have believed it possible before i got the car back
anyway good luck with the rest though..if you have not encountered any problems yet you have been very lucky already!

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216912
19/05/2011 21:03
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Hi mate,
until now has not had any problems...works very well and has torque in 1300miles mor or less ;-)!
I think he has 34mm internals,and also think it's very good for a rapidly rising rotation due to be 34mm,and as has long tubes, are all equal to 38cm,I think that is optimal for high speed!I try to join the business with pleasure kakakaka...at now I have full boost 1.0bar pressure at 4900rpm!but is standard chip and standard ecu! next month I will buy everything standalone ecu injectors fuel pump and other things..then I think I'll do full boost 4300rpm...

cheers Carlos

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216914
19/05/2011 21:05
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Originally Posted By: charlieBoy
Looks great, just a couple of small questions.

What intercooler is that? Looks very well made.

What is the swirl type pot and two pipes that are where the old air box normally is on the front left hand side?

Seriously looking good though. Well done.


thanks mate,about your questions, my friend has already answered

cheers
Carlos

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216916
19/05/2011 21:05
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Originally Posted By: pretender
Its the oil filter...


thanks mate... laugh

Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216929
19/05/2011 21:31
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i like this thread alot

carlos i cant wait to see a vid of it running full boost


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Re: my project 2.4 20v turbo in coupe [Re: ] #1216950
19/05/2011 22:12
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yeah me too mate,I can wait to see...as I said before, next month I will buy everything, and in August, going to the dyno...

cheers

Carlos

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