Hi I need two new tyres but only use car in the summer for 1 or 2 thousand miles a year so wear not an issue was thinking of Falken FK452 seem to be slightly better than toyos according to comparison sites.I know it has been asked before but just low mileage that might change things need to get them fitted before friday. tia

I prefer my Toyos to the Falkens; just a little less road noise IMO, although it could be because the Falkens on the Moon VT6 wheels are 225s whereas I have 205 Toyos on my Scottie. Also the Scottie is noisier because of the exhaust and the atmospheric dump valve.

Bear in mind that the Toyo T1Rs are now out of production although you can still buy from stock. It is just down to personal preference really....

Tim

As long as they won't see sub zero then Toyo R1Rs are as sticky yet rain friendly as you'll get. Have them on mine now and they are in a different class to 452s but have wear rate to match. They can crack at -9c so definitely not for winter. Only hesitation would be the imbalance of only having two. Certainly they'd need to go on the back.

Devbod

What are the motorway noise levels like relative to the 452s?

Steve

I have 452s on the 16 and T1Rs on the 20; I don't notice much difference in the noise, though the 16 is a noisier car overall. Both are sensitive to concrete motorway surface - I hate whoever came up with that stupid idea...

Which reminds me - I wonder if those fronts will last 1200 miles...

Nowhere near what I'd expected given the reviews. On good surfaces no different to a normal tyre. On concrete etc then probably about 20% louder than what you might expect. Certainly not an issue. Compared to the 452s that came off they are much quieter but worn tyres make much more noise and the R1Rs are only 2 weeks old. Cannot comment relative to T1Rs as I've never tried them.

They are a little firmer, you notice the joins in the road more but no tramlining.

hi tia - either of those tyres you mention are fine products, just go for the cheapest option you can find for them

If you're only doing 1 or 2k a year, then you may as well get some proper dry weather, track day tyres. Cheapest are Hankook RS2s (and they're very grippy compared to FK452s), but even Toyo R888s will last years at that lower mileage. Falken 452s and Toyo Proxes T1Rs are both all weather tyres that do it all VERY well. I don't see the point if you're only using it for dry weather fun?

If used in the dry only then lots of options. Not sure there's much at this level that match the R1R in the rain. Still not sure I'd fit only 2 of any of these though.

Thanks for advice the toyos are about £8 a tyre cheaper I know it would be better to have four to match but can't really warrant changing rears as they are nearly new,not sure about dry weather tyres as living in wales never get them and would be concerned about getting caught out in the rain.Not like I would be pushing in the rain

Went with toyos good service from camskill,had tyres fitted today :)when the old ones came off on the inside of one it was all matt but on the other it was matt and shiny tires felt like driving on marbles, can anybody explain why?

Am I the only person who doesnt care about tyre noise etc..?