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Re: Flea remap
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#1241518
25/07/2011 20:38
25/07/2011 20:38
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Posts: 1,786 Peterborough, UK
jas_racing
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Best thing to do if you go to see Leighton, is give him the keys and forget about it.
UNLESS something untoward happens, you will be very pleased when you go to pick the car back up.
I should know about untoward things happening whilst having the Flea treatment - my alternator belt derailed, luckily only munching itself and the pulley, instead of the venturing into the cambelt.
You could hardly lay the blame on Leighton - for all i know it could have done the same thing on the drive down - or on the way home.
Yes, ok, its a fair point as others have posted, mapping a car does put it under some heavy loads, but I doubt MUCH more than giving it a damn good thrashing yourself.
Chances of a failure in Leightons hands - small but there I suppose, but as above, equal to the chance of a failure on the way down there.
I took my 20VT to Leighton, not really aiming for a number, or HUGE bhp, more for him to iron out the hotch potch of mods that the previous owner had fitted, and get it running smoother through the rev range, and thats exactly what i got.
Bang for buck, its the best 'mod' you can buy for a Coupe.
Couldn't agree more, particularly with the first and last bits. Yes the engine will be pushed hard for short bursts during the stage 1 process but it is just that - short bursts and if your engine can't take that, especially in Leighton's very experienced hands you've got problems even before you head to his place! I'm pretty sure Fiat intended the Coupé's engine to be thrashed on occasions. If your Coupé is in good health, has enjoyed regular servicing with quality filters & fluids and the belts are well within their lifespan you've got little if anything to worry about. The benefits will have you grinning all the way home
She's GONE!
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Re: Flea remap
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#1241543
25/07/2011 21:24
25/07/2011 21:24
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,405 Castle Combe
Flea
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I will add a some more later regarding the dyno, as it requires a little more than a cursory answer. In short, as I alluded to on another thread, tuning will always require careful attention. It would be remiss of me (or any other tuner) if I didn't explore the upper limits of an engines potential, that is simply what I am being paid to do. However, the key is to do this in a controlled and understood environment, so that you are aware of what is happening at all times and how to deal with it. A generic chip has greater risk because there are unknowns, conversely a custom chip should evaluate all parameters and therefore quench the variables significantly . Method and knowledge are key. It is all too easy to say I can "tune", I can "live map", but this needs to be quantified with real experience and knowledge beyond the very simple basics. Mclaren and Virgin are both F1 cars, but well we all know the difference... I have yet to have a single car fail as a result of tuning. By this I mean tuning related activities, and I can categorically say the engine is not compromised in any way beyond the requirement to unleash this potential. I would honestly go as far to say that when an engine is setup correctly it will repay you in kind. I have tuned many cars that defy the usual retoric, the standard engine is far more robust than the general consensus would have you know. In an ideal world every car would arrive in perfect health, but they don't and it doesn't take me long to pick up on some nasties. Tuning is not always about fun, it can quickly reveal things that are not up to scratch. I do get the odd occasional perfect car , and it is a pleasure to hand it back and say so, but invariably I am not just tackling the ECU! As for the dyno, well this discussion is a little gem
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Re: Flea remap
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25/07/2011 21:29
25/07/2011 21:29
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johnnybravoturbo
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johnnybravoturbo
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In English, Flea:- I am the best,no one is as good as me,my hair is long and im not as good as Jbt around the tracks of the Uk,. Seriously though,live mapping is worth every penny if you want economy,performance but more importantly peace of mind knowing that you can have some fun and be confident that everything is ok.
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Re: Flea remap
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#1241612
25/07/2011 23:27
25/07/2011 23:27
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shinyshoes
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shinyshoes
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So kind of you to refer to my Plus He definetly wasnt refering to mine! Bloody thing.
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Re: Flea remap
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26/07/2011 01:16
26/07/2011 01:16
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Ori
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Ori
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Flea, I never meant to question your expertise and I hope you didn't see it that way. Just wish you did the occasional London trip. Bristol is a long trek for me.
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Re: Flea remap
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26/07/2011 02:04
26/07/2011 02:04
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Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,192 Bristol, UK
Hovedan
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Just wish you did the occasional London trip. Bristol is a long trek for me. You are joking right? I used to commute to London 3 days a week, and travel to Brighton regularly with a 5 and 6 year old in tow in the coop! Do it, and enjoy the drive home, it'll be quicker and not just in the mind! And yep, I'm in Bristol
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Re: Flea remap
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#1241685
26/07/2011 08:34
26/07/2011 08:34
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,706 Gone
Jimbo
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Flea, Just wish you did the occasional London trip. Bristol is a long trek for me. Spoken like a true Londoner A whopping 120 miles or two hours! It must be such a struggle to even get up in the morning you poor thing.
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Re: Flea remap
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26/07/2011 10:08
26/07/2011 10:08
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Ori
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Ori
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Flea, Just wish you did the occasional London trip. Bristol is a long trek for me. Spoken like a true Londoner A whopping 120 miles or two hours! It must be such a struggle to even get up in the morning you poor thing. Haha....actually my coupe does some miles.....I travel for my job and do aprox 700-800 miles per week. Last week I did 400 miles in one day!! So forgive me, but a 240 mile return trip on a weekend is harsh on me. :-)
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Re: Flea remap
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26/07/2011 14:19
26/07/2011 14:19
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Biggenz
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Biggenz
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Spoken like a true Londoner Oi oi, enough with the Londoner thing. Not all of us live in the sticks where the only thing we have to do is drive up and down country lanes and look after the sheep.
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Re: Flea remap
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26/07/2011 14:24
26/07/2011 14:24
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Marco20valveT
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Marco20valveT
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In English, Flea:- I am the best,no one is as good as me,my hair is long and im not as good as Jbt around the tracks of the Uk,. errr.. last time i saw him he had a serious mullet chop!!!
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Re: Flea remap
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26/07/2011 16:43
26/07/2011 16:43
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Ori
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Ori
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Spoken like a true Londoner Oi oi, enough with the Londoner thing. Not all of us live in the sticks where the only thing we have to do is drive up and down country lanes and look after the sheep. Don't rise to it. Bad enough our economy has to subsidise them, but they insult us to boot!
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Re: Flea remap
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26/07/2011 18:20
26/07/2011 18:20
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johnnybravoturbo
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johnnybravoturbo
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In English, Flea:- I am the best,no one is as good as me,my hair is long and im not as good as Jbt around the tracks of the Uk,. errr.. last time i saw him he had a serious mullet chop!!! What like mine?
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Re: Flea remap
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27/07/2011 08:43
27/07/2011 08:43
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Marco20valveT
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Marco20valveT
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In English, Flea:- I am the best,no one is as good as me,my hair is long and im not as good as Jbt around the tracks of the Uk,. errr.. last time i saw him he had a serious mullet chop!!! What like mine? Don't be silly, no one Can have a hair cut that makes them look super I think it was just a short back and sides!!
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Re: Flea remap
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#1242319
27/07/2011 19:49
27/07/2011 19:49
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shinyshoes
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shinyshoes
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Not all of us live in the sticks where the only thing we have to do is drive up and down country lanes and look after the sheep. Sheeps need some lovin too you know But seriously, i drove from Norfolk to Bristol to see Leighton, just get up nice and early and you'll be there in under 2 hours easy. I left mine at 4am, and was at Reading services by 6 (speed limit all the way)
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Re: Flea remap
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#1242368
27/07/2011 22:10
27/07/2011 22:10
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,783 In the coupe.
magooagain
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I travelled to Flea's from France. A custom map and chip was done.That was done nearly 18 months ago. I have to say my coupe does not miss a beat and goes like rocket. An nice untouched 20vt does make things uncomplicated though.
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