can't believe you beat it with just 239 bhp??
when i had 270 bhp, i only just got the better of a boxster s..... That was from 30mph+
so i find it very hard to believe you pipped it with just a g tech?? He must have had Rick waller passanger!!

Nick

That'll be the oil pressure, no relation with boost. 2.8 bar is extremely healthy. It SHOULD be 3+ while driving above 2000rpm. Will actually be in the region of 5-6.

Thanks KayJay,

I should have had a fullstop in there instead of "as".

'It also might benefit from a boost gage. It idles on 2.8bar and sits somewhare above 3bar when running, any tips on what I could do and where I could take it?'

Ori 911 turbo 996 different kettle of fish! Jamies 911 feels sooo slow inside its because I was expecting more because of the badge.

Yep gtec ONLY it wasn't v quick at all he was suprised by the coupe also. This is an old porsche 911 remember! I'm not making it up why would I my current stage 3 coupe would wipe the floor with it so I'm not bragging about how fast my old coupe was! You may not believe but that 239 bhp coupe ran a 13.9 at santapod so it wasn't slow. The old 996 911 carrera 2s also would probably be slower than the newer boxter S's. A current 911 carrera 2s would eat a 239 bhp coupe for breakfast obviously.

The porsche definitely won't break down as much and I'm starting to think coupes are a bit flimsy and going off them so I'm not making things up to big up the coupe for sure.

That 911 is 2wd and it is stupidly dangerous in the damp he has bent the rear wheel on a curb doing 20mph on a roundabout not long ago.

Oh and the interior is so out of date and boring in that model also.

Please watch your comments, as I don't want this turning into a V's thread or it will be deleted - thanks (You've been warned)!

Alpiiiinnnnaaaa B3S

But they guzzle gas - my brother gets about 17mpg out of his around town - no worse than an M3 though I guess but far less common

If you want diesel, D3 is no slouch either apparently

Or this is quite swift with an unlimited top speed of 194mph, obviously highly useful in the UK where the speed limit is 70

http://pistonheads.com/sales/2473884.htm

Or if you want a family wagon, you are somewhat unlikely ever to see another of these on the road (my brother has one of only 15 'normal' B3s)

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3066470.htm

Oh I love it how half the thread has been talking about a coupe being quicker in a race than a 911 and asoon as I chip in its a vs thread. That will be all on that matter now.

Hang on Theresa,

This is just what my original question was! What is there out there that has 2 useable rear seats, is as quick as a 300bhp coupe, costs as little to run and returns 25mpg?

I said I had tried a 911 3.4 tiptronic and was disappointed. I want and value the opinions of my fellow coupe drivers. I have had some very helpful suggestions from members on this post and am coming to the conclusion that a tuned coupe is probably one of the most undervalued cars on the road today, even 10 years after they stopped making them. I’m not sure Kayjay was right to switch this to other cars as we are talking about how inferior other cars are to our beloved coupe. Every time I think about switching I get drawn back. I can’t see any other car that can shame the coupe without spending many 10’s of thousands of pounds and isn’t that what this wonderful forum, that Kayjay created, is all about.

I have no problem with your questions or posts, just want to warn people that I don't want it turning into a V's/racing thread, which is how these threads start heading and BoostMeCoupeUp's post was touching on it slightly.

Hiya, legit questions all the way. Although some people could take this as a trigger to start posting about public-road-racing (which is what we mean by 'vs' threads) - which is not allowed on here after a few 'issues'.

Oh - and anyone that is a moderator / admin on here can move posts. You blamin' me? Could have been me. Could've been someone else.



Ever though about how your post might have had nothing to do with her decision to post her (well-placed) reminder? The fact that Theresa's post appears right after yours doesn't mean it's your post that triggered her reaction, it just means she posted after you. As you might notice from her activity, Theresa doesn't arrive home from work until really late. Then she goes into FCC uk mode and starts her volunteering work as a moderator - board member. So I'll repeat - for different reasons: please watch your comments.

No I didn't notice her posting patterns and I have no problem with her post about the rules I just thought the whole post was on this topic! I am not in anyway suggesting that she was out of order I did think that the vs thread wasn't mentioned untill I posted though and it was very on topic of the post.

Kayjay come on its all fun don't take it too seriously as a board member you have more power on the forum than under your bonnet.

The original 996 C2 (3.4) was incredibly quick when Autocar road-tested it at launch; 0-100 in under 11 seconds.

Jim

This is true, I've even seen 911 owners on their forums question that data... It's still a 296bhp, 1320kg car though and with a rear engined, rear wheel driven launch, I don't see why it wouldn't be this quick. Remember it's got transmission losses like a FWD car as no prop shaft to lose power down... I assume?

They got similar figures in another comparison piece (think it was against an M Coupe) and again when the 3.6 was released.

Jim

Only read the first post, but a £20k sports car will reward in DOZENS of way's in which the coupe won't, yes the coupe is good bang for bucks, but the handling is NOT that good, the brakes are also from 10 years+ ago (obv as they are). Interior rattles, gearbox is terribly sloppy etc etc.

My Z4 feels slow compared to my old 20vt, even though it's just as quick really (5.7 0-60mph) but the Z4 wipes the floor with it in so many other respects, handling, braking, grip, roof down = fun at any speed, interior is v nice place to be, stero is far better, more toys, looks more modern, etc etc.

If you just want straight line speed then buy something and tune it.

you can get a mk2 focus rs for that cash,PERFECT all rounder

Apart from the image...

i prefer a big capacity n/a to a small capacity turbo any day of the week and my m3 was more fun than my 20vt but i will echo the feeling slower bit even though the speedo told a massively different story

for a chav

chav image?dont personally know any chavs with 20 plus grand to spend on a properly sorted car with all the right bits to make it a very fast road car whilst also being sensible enough to use every day,but hey,maybe i look at the potential a car has rather than worry about an image,if i did that i wouldnt have a fiat coupe.

I say chav because it looks like someone has taken a Ford focus,read a copy of Max power and.gone to halfords,then found the most shouty colour they can.how can you compare the coupe which looks sexy to a tarted up hatchback?

It's alright discussing all these the other cars. The important thing here is that because this is FCCUK a 220bhp FWD 1300kg Coupé is quite clearly faster than a 300bhp RWD 1300kg 911.

I mean, what can you do? Clearly only a Veyron will do to replace the Coupé. Lets hope that in 10 years time they reached the £1k price mark too.

ive said it before,ill say it again,i dont think the coupe is especially good looking at all,in fact its downright ugly from some angles,looks like someone tried to take a nice looking design but due to the constaints of a Tipos dimensions,they had to squash it,to me the focus looks purposefull,and to a lot of people the coupe is ugly (a lot of 7th gen coupe owners have commented)but to me its all about the whole car,not a perceived image.and the coupe IS a tarted up hatchback lol.anyway,back to the original question,how about a bmw 330d or 335d with a remap?

I agree, I prefer the look of a Focus RS any day over the Coupe.

On looks alone, the Coupe will fail. It's the whole package including performance that does it for me.

I would like to add the WRX STI 03-05 (the best ) to the fold . Great all rounder and you would have plenty of money to (Tastefully! mod it). P.s don't call me a chav because chavs can't afford a proper one unless they stole it from the LDN area in recent day's...

Best of both worlds, possibly?

Fast barge

Duffman,
good car.BUT....fuel economy!!!!subarus are NOT renowned for being frugal lol

I guess this isn't a case of your right, or your wrong.
IMO the coupe can look rough from some angles, but most angles it looks great. One of the best things is the road presence it has. When you see a coupe driving up behind you in the rear view mirror, or driving by on the road, they look amazing! That to me is the WHOLE car looking great, not just a part of it from a particular angle.
How is the Coupe a tarted up hatchback too?? haha!

The focus is a focus, i'm sure the car is fine if not less exciting, the looks are fine IMO, and from some close up angles looks smart! But as a car, when i see one on the road or coming up in the rear view mirror, it's just not the same.

Anyway, just some harmless points of view I have more to say but i won't

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