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F1 2012 - All the news #1292667
28/11/2011 09:39
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Given that the 2011 season is now well and truely over and has been for at least oooh 15 hours now. I think it's time to start a 2012 thread. Especially given the news which has already been released regarding it.

So to start with :

BBC F1 Calendar

Brundle confirms move to Sky

(that second link also confirms that Sky will be creating a dedicated SkySports F1 channel, which viewers will have to pay extra for frown )

Discuss laugh

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You only have to pay for the channel if you don't have the HD package or Sky Sports package.

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Hmm, i have the full Sky Sports package with my VirginMedia account, but even that doesn't include SkySports news, so I wonder if i'll get it?

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1292687
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Annoyed Brundles sold out too frown
Villeneuve is looking a likely for 2012 ... not that I'll see much of it by the looks of it frown

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1292690
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Looks like Crofty will be joing Brundle at Sky too frown



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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: bezzer] #1292715
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Wohoooo, my Sky subs are becoming better value by the day. I genuinely can't understand anyone who says they enjoy any sport (wimbledon excepted) who then says they haven't/won't subscribe to the best sports channels anywhere bar none.

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I've got the HD pack but not the sport pack, it appears I'll get the F1 channel for free. I'm happy, as I wasn't going to fork out the extra for the sports package, only to watch the F1. Autosport link.

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: Gunzi] #1292732
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Originally Posted By: Gunzi
I've got the HD pack but not the sport pack, it appears I'll get the F1 channel for free. I'm happy........


Same here biglaugh

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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: bezzer] #1292744
28/11/2011 14:29
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I'm on the HD pack, so all of a sudden I'm watching the 2012 season.

Thank god Brundle has moved to Sky tongue


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Originally Posted By: Roadking

Thank god Brundle has moved to Sky tongue


Amen to that, i think he makes all the difference bow

I honestly believe Sky will make the entire F1 experience so much better

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Originally Posted By: proccy
Wohoooo, my Sky subs are becoming better value by the day. I genuinely can't understand anyone who says they enjoy any sport (wimbledon excepted) who then says they haven't/won't subscribe to the best sports channels anywhere bar none.


Probably down to £40-£50 per month cost proccy crazy

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Oh it's more than that Nello with the options I choose - but that's the point, i choose what i watch. I have to pay the BBC ransom if i watch it or not wink

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Looks like F1 is back on for me then, which is goood news. Hopefully they won't cock it up. smile

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1292783
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Originally Posted By: proccy
I have to pay the BBC ransom if i watch it or not wink
And I have to pay an even bigger ransom to Sky if I want to watch it (which I increasingly don't anymore :yawn: ) which is a shame because I had been so looking forward to F1 in HD on BBC.


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Originally Posted By: DaveG
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I have to pay the BBC ransom if i watch it or not wink
And I have to pay an even bigger ransom to Sky if I want to watch it (which I increasingly don't anymore :yawn: ) which is a shame because I had been so looking forward to F1 in HD on BBC.


No ransom involved with Sky Dave, you either choose to pay it, or parts of it, or none at all - free enterprise.....

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My wife chooses what I watch frown But then I again I choose whats on the drive laugh

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1292791
28/11/2011 16:40
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If its free to HD subscribers thats me in!


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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1292847
28/11/2011 20:06
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No ransom involved with Sky Dave, you either choose to pay it, or parts of it, or none at all - free enterprise.....


Nope, you pay to receive television signal - terrestrial or satellite. Even if you only watch sky, you still pay the licence fee.

You also watch - even if you don't have a TV at all - the advertising budget for *every* UK commercial station, either terrestrial or satellite.


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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: barnacle] #1292848
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But where does the license fee go then?

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1292860
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The license fee goes to pay for a whole lot more than just the TV channels. which is, (ok,very cheaply, not quite free) to air for everyone.

No way will I pay for TV content. Mind you I don't really watch more than a few hours a week anyway! Other things to do.


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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: paulw] #1292867
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Originally Posted By: paulw
The license fee goes to pay for a whole lot more than just the TV channels


Like what? Chris Moyles/Zane Lowe/Reg Yates et al on £loads per year for inane drivel? makes me feel much better then rolleyes

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Strictly, the licence fee goes direct to government coffers. The BBC is paid a grant which is agreed every three years in advance and is usually *about* the same amount as the licence fee is expected to be.


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I begrudge people like Moyles, Jonathon Woss etc being on millions of £££ a year for being inane, and I have no say in how the "grant" is used - if i don't like Sky i just cancel it.... rolleyes

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Well, you can cancel the bit that's paid *directly* to Rupert, but you can't cancel the advertising budget, and neither can I.

Have you written to the BBC to discuss their choice of 'talent'? As long as they think people like them, they'll keep employing them... though to be honest I'd far rather complain about a completely unnecessary billion pounds used to move half the BBC to Salford, or the same amount in rebuilding Broadcasting House - though that's *slightly* more acceptable.


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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1292994
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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: adder58] #1293010
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Originally Posted By: adder58
But who will be gone petrov or senna frown ?


Petrov has the financial backing so I assume he'll stay.



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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: adder58] #1293030
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Originally Posted By: adder58
Heeee's. Baackkk. K R

But who will be gone petrov or senna frown ?



Given this quote in the article, it seems people in F1 have short memories.........

Originally Posted By: BBC
The Finn struggled to recapture that form in the next two seasons, where he was frequently outperformed by team-mate Felipe Massa, and left the team at the end of 2009


That is pretty damning stuff! Okay, Massa was better in those days, that spring/head interface never did him any favours but he's had flashes of his old style recently if not consistently.

KR went off to WRC but in my opinion was bloody awful! Fair enough, you could spend hours debating the differences between the disciplines but I expected better performances from him, as I'm sure did his team!

I reckon we could be witnessing another Schumacher-esque embarrassment, at least in his first season back. Hope I'm wrong.....


Oh, and I'm still praying that "nasty old Frank Williams" will extend Reubens contract for one final year, just to let him go out with his head held high and no more begging in front of a worldwide television audience; that was cringeworthy and utterly demeaning!


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I'm with Stan on Kimi - F1 is a different place from where he left it, KERS, DRS and perhaps most importantly different tyres that require care & management throughout a race in stark contrast to Kimi's all or nothing style. I did like his attitude & approach to the media though and look forward to reporters being on the receiving end of blunt relies to their unimaginative questions ("how do you feel?")


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To be honest, Senna has outperformed Petrov in many races now, and while I was laughing at him before his 'return' after being test driver for a while, he's proven to be quite an asset to the team, and I feel Petrov was getting slightly demotivated. My vote's on Senna.

PS - did I see it correct that Senna actually did the fastest Sector 1 time in Q2 this weekend, which he abandonned when nobody was going to steal his place anymore?


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i'm so confused by the bbc coverage next year? can someone brighter than me tell me if the whole race will appear on iplayer? (don't care if its live as i can only watch later due to no tv lisence).

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So according to Lord Bernie of Ecclestone, in the future Europe will host only 5 GP's rolleyes

My favoured ones would be:-

Belgium
Germany
Italy
Britain
And a return to San Marino laugh

Which ones would you like to remain on the schedule?



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No Monaco? shocked

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Originally Posted By: proccy
No Monaco? shocked


Monaco = zzz zzz zzz zzz



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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: bezzer] #1293196
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No Monaco? shocked


Monaco = zzz zzz zzz zzz



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+4

but I thought it was one of the massive money-spinners and media events in the calendar? The race itself is almost an irrelevance

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It's extraordinary that it should be possible for a group of petrolheads to describe driving state of the art racing cars at insane speeds along narrow streets where one mistake could easily mean catastrophe as a yawnfest. Yet it's true.
I think the problem is that for it to be possible to happen at all, it has to be proven to be safe, which - given the level of skill of the drivers and the design and reliability of the cars - it is.
The in-car footage is still stunning, but as a sporting spectacle, with no overtaking, few mistakes and no breakdowns, it is almost guaranteed to be a non-event.

Presumably it is the amount of business that gets done in Monaco over race weekend and the images that are used to sell F1 to countries with no motor-racing heritage that ensure its continuation.

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Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell


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It's extraordinary that it should be possible for a group of petrolheads to describe driving state of the art racing cars at insane speeds along narrow streets where one mistake could easily mean catastrophe as a yawnfest. Yet it's true.
I think the problem is that for it to be possible to happen at all, it has to be proven to be safe, which - given the level of skill of the drivers and the design and reliability of the cars - it is.
The in-car footage is still stunning, but as a sporting spectacle, with no overtaking, few mistakes and no breakdowns, it is almost guaranteed to be a non-event.

Presumably it is the amount of business that gets done in Monaco over race weekend and the images that are used to sell F1 to countries with no motor-racing heritage that ensure its continuation.


J_C, corrected for accuracy smile


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Interesting, dedicated F1 channel eh? Two things spring to mind, first is that this news 'might' be enough to tempt me to get Sky as I assume it means I don't have to receive endless hours of crappy football that I won't watch. Secondly, a dedicated channel??? How are they going to fill that? Or will it only broadcast on or around F1 weekends.

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I'm sure they will probably fill out hours with 'classic' grand prixs and then possibly re-runs of F2, F3 under the guise of F1-Juniors or F1 feeder class.

Then there will be all the technical documentaries that Brundle seems to hint upon.

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Monaco

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I love it. it might not be the most exiting race on the calander but it is an amazing spectacle and in fact has produced some great racing/accidents along the way too. If I could afford it this would be in my top two or three to visit.


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I liked Monaco, but only until they changed the name of Loew's corner...


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Oh... reminds me of when we went to Monaco in 2009. We got a nice view on Loew's corner and I said to Joke "you know what would be nice? To get something classic, sporty, exotic to pass by now. Something you see maybe once in a year." Next thing, what do you know...

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That's a rare sight - a Ferrari going round Loew's without a Maclaren running into it....


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Ooh, that's purdy.

Shame we can only look at it, rather than know what it is like to sit in one, but I guess if anyone had had that experience they would have mentioned it on here before now.


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Oh... reminds me of when we went to Monaco in 2009. We got a nice view on Loew's corner and I said to Joke "you know what would be nice? To get something classic, sporty, exotic to pass by now. Something you see maybe once in a year." Next thing, what do you know...

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I stayed in the hotel (what was the Loews hotel) in a room looking out over the hairpin. Somebody drove past in a 50s Ferrari - very nice. It's a lovely location.

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I have to pay the BBC ransom if i watch it or not wink
And I have to pay an even bigger ransom to Sky if I want to watch it (which I increasingly don't anymore :yawn: ) which is a shame because I had been so looking forward to F1 in HD on BBC.



Wouldn't be so bad if paying the expensive Sky TV subs offered completely advert free viewing.. but it doesn't crazy If anything Sky TV encourages more adverts and lower quality ones at that!

How long before each corner name changes to reflect the new advertisers Sky will bring to the table... The Ocean Finance British GP featuring safestyle bend, Vanish straight and the JML complex rolleyes biglaugh


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Originally Posted By: Barmybob
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I have to pay the BBC ransom if i watch it or not wink
And I have to pay an even bigger ransom to Sky if I want to watch it (which I increasingly don't anymore :yawn: ) which is a shame because I had been so looking forward to F1 in HD on BBC.



Wouldn't be so bad if paying the expensive Sky TV subs offered completely advert free viewing.. but it doesn't crazy If anything Sky TV encourages more adverts and lower quality ones at that!

How long before each corner name changes to reflect the new advertisers Sky will bring to the table... The Ocean Finance British GP featuring safestyle bend, Vanish straight and the JML complex rolleyes biglaugh


I think i'm right in saying that Sky have committed to at least the races being advert free, and maybe some of the specialist bits with Brundle too - i can certainly live with that wink

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I think i'm right in saying that Sky have committed to at least the races being advert free....


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Red Bull and Ferrari quit FOTA

I suspect this will see out of season testing resume, thank goodness, along with several other changes.....


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Red Bull and Ferrari quit FOTA

I suspect this will see out of season testing resume, thank goodness, along with several other changes.....


And it'll mean the 'big' 4 will be able to spend bucket loads more money than the other teams meaning the gap will widen even more frown



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What is most shocking is the revelation that RK reads the gossip pages on AOL. What were you thinking, Derek? I though I knew you, man!

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What is most shocking is the revelation that RK reads the gossip pages on AOL. What were you thinking, Derek? I though I knew you, man!


blush Bang to rights, Guv. I think I should say in my defence I was actually trying to find a porn site..


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This in The Times today:

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Sky Sports raid BBC for Formula One coverage

The job of guiding Formula One fans through next season’s world championship on Sky Sports has been handed to a man with a voice which is as familiar to followers of darts as it is motor racing.

David Croft has won the coveted role as chief commentator for the new Sky Sports coverage with Martin Brundle leaving the BBC to return to his old role as pundit and analyst.

Sky Sports have confirmed their line-up, which revealed a raid on the BBC talent coffers. As well as Brundle, Ted Kravitz joins Sky from his role in the pitlane for the BBC, along with Natalie Pinkham, who leaves BBC Radio Five Live to join the satellite channel. Kravitz will also present a new magazine show on Sky’s dedicated Formula One channel with Georgie Thompson, currently a Sky Sports presenter.

Simon Lazenby, already a regular on Sky Sports, particularly on the channel’s rugby presentations, will be the host with Jake Humphrey remaining at the BBC. Steve Rider, who hosted Formula One for ITV, returns to conduct major interviews, including pieces with former drivers and team owners.

Sky has won the rights to broadcast all 20 races live next season, although no one is certain yet which races they will be as the FIA World Motorsport Council meets in Delhi on Wednesday to consider the 2012 calendar.

There is speculation that the US Grand Prix scheduled for Austin in Texas might yet have been saved for its date in October, but the FIA still has to decide whether it is safe to sanction the go-ahead for the Bahrain Grand Prix after a bomb exploded outside the British Embassy in the capital of Manama last week.

The responsibility of guiding F1 viewers will fall to Croft, who has been commentating on BBC Five Live, but his is also a familiar voice at the microphone for the BDO World Darts Championships. Commentating for the BBC since 2006, Croft has one thing in common with one of the key figures in Formula One, Lewis Hamilton. They both come from the Stevenage area of Hertfordshire.

It is not yet known who will move into Croft’s seat at Five Live but David Coulthard, Eddie Jordan and Lee McKenzie will all stay with the television team committed to covering ten grands prix live next season with ten, 90-minute highlights packages.


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A shame the beeb have lost Ted Kravitz, he seemed well trusted down in the pitlane and could extract information from teams quite easily.

And Natalie Pinkham love love

Glad I'll be seeing every race live next year laugh



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Blimey talk about plundering the BBC talent pool! shocked They've got quite a job on their hands replacing the likes of Ted Kravitz and Crofty


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New rules for 2012

I think there will be some confusion with:

"Drivers will not be allowed to move back onto the racing line after having moved off it to defend their position."

As surely they have to join the racing line again at some point, when can they do this? If a driver moves off the racing line to defend a position but still makes it to the apex of the corner first, and is therefore back on the racing line before the other car has completed a maneuver, what happens then?

Also, there will be no more Canadian epics, with maximum race time set to 4 hours including any stoppages.

And finally, we will have 4-5 laps of safety cars EVERY time a safety car is called because:

"all lapped cars will be allowed to unlap themselves and then join at the back of the field during safety car periods, ensuring a clean restart without slower cars in front of the leaders."

Not happy at all about that one. grr

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At least the commentator isn't that irritating Sid Waddell!!

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"Drivers will not be allowed to move back onto the racing line after having moved off it to defend their position."

That's quite vague. Is it...

"Drivers will not be allowed to move back onto the racing line after having moved off it to defend their position."

Meaning they can't move back to the racing line at all AFTER they (even unsuccesfully) defended their position. Or that if they moved off it (eg. evasive action / picking up water on a drying track to cool their tyres) for any reason whatsoever, they cannot go back to it if anyone was coming up behind them. So all in all, this means they have to stay away from any racing line after defending their position.

or could it be interpreted as

"Drivers will not be allowed to move back onto the racing line after having moved off it to defend their position"

Which means they can't move back to the line in order to (further) defend their position. But they CAN move back to if they're no longer defending their position. Actually, this means that you lose a place as soon as you go off the line in order to defend your position, as you will not be allowed to go back to the racing line as long as you are defending - which will NATURALLY happen as soon as you've reached the corner - as soon as you're defending, you actually have to let the other guy through because you're BOUND to obstruct him (and thus defend your position) when going back to the racing line.

It's one of the most vague rules they ever had. The rule should specify when it IS allowed to rejoin the racing line. Ef " Drivers are allowed to move off the racing line to defend their position, but - unless they have lost their position - may not move back onto the racing line until the track layout would make it impossible to stay off the racing line without leaving the circuit."


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Just to add - not a big fan of F1 myself personally, but with a dedicated F1 channel, I think I may give it a watch. laugh

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for me this has all turned from gold into sh1t. can't even listen to crofty on 5live. oh well. looking forward to a better year of moto gp. maybe sky can do a back handed deal with the beeb on that next year too.

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Grosjean and Raikkonen for Renault then.

Feel a little sorry for Senna.



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Hmmm, I wonder......Senna in a Williams perhaps? chinny


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Senna will find another drive in F1. Maybe not straight away, but the $$$ attached to his name and his accomplished media style will make it impossible to resist. Not to mention the fact that he's a decent driver...

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Professor Sid Watkins stands down.

Shame really, under his leadership the sport has definitely had a better safety culture. I attended some lectures given by him many years ago and he was an excellent teacher, being able to draw upon vast experience and pass it seamlessly onto his pupils. He'll be sadly missed.


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I wonder where Sutil will end up confused

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Originally Posted By: stan
I wonder where Sutil will end up confused


The article suggested he'd drive for Williams in 2012.



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Yes, but if you read the full article it is ambivalent about that and the side bar really shows the competition he's up against to get that seat. I guess if he reduces his pay demands or gets a chunk of sponsorship he *may* get a drive with HRT.....


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Anyone hear about this?

Not really 2012 F1 news, but blimey!




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Adrian Newey gets an OBE although you'll have to scroll down quite far to find him!


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Speculation that Reubens *might* still have a drive although my money is hovering over Adrian Sutil.

I reckon from a publicity point of view Williams would be very wise to go with Reubens for one last season; 20yrs in the business is going to see a LOT of airtime/camera focus on the car and be attractive to investors/sponsors, especially if it is made clear he is in his final season.....

I genuinely hope they do plump for Reubens, he's been a hell of a character in F1 even if he's always been seen as the "almost" man. It would be a real pity to lose him without a whimper and I'd just love a wee fairytale ending, like a podium finish in his final home grand prix, that would the icing on the cake!


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Speculation that Reubens *might* still have a drive although my money is hovering over Adrian Sutil.

I reckon from a publicity point of view Williams would be very wise to go with Reubens for one last season; 20yrs in the business is going to see a LOT of airtime/camera focus on the car and be attractive to investors/sponsors, especially if it is made clear he is in his final season.....

I genuinely hope they do plump for Reubens, he's been a hell of a character in F1 even if he's always been seen as the "almost" man. It would be a real pity to lose him without a whimper and I'd just love a wee fairytale ending, like a podium finish in his final home grand prix, that would the icing on the cake!


My 2p is on Senna getting the nod.



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I'm also hopeful for Barrichello, but Williams have played a good hand in holding back. Three great drivers going for a song...
I never understood why Barrichello was expected to bow out gracefully.

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oh they're going with Renault, interesting... who knows then!

I think it'll be a carrot on the Quatar sponsorship deal, "pick our second driver".

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"The future of the European Grand Prix in Valencia is in doubt after the city's government indicated that it wants to renegotiate its race fee."

Hallelujah, lets hope they ask too much and it goes. It is boring to watch and even more boring to drive on F1 2011

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"The future of the European Grand Prix in Valencia is in doubt after the city's government indicated that it wants to renegotiate its race fee."

Hallelujah, lets hope they ask too much and it goes. It is boring to watch and even more boring to drive on F1 2011


It's a crap place to spectate at too

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"The future of the European Grand Prix in Valencia is in doubt after the city's government indicated that it wants to renegotiate its race fee."

Hallelujah, lets hope they ask too much and it goes. It is boring to watch and even more boring to drive on F1 2011



Couldn't agree more.

It's been a monumental snoozefest since the first race!

Maybe a return to Magny Cours instead?

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CEO of oil company OGX who are sponsors of Bruno Senna has tweeted this morning that Bruno *will* be driving for Williams next season. No doubt more to follow, as even Bruno says he doesn't know! Found this snippet on the BBC F1 homepage.


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CEO of oil company OGX who are sponsors of Bruno Senna has tweeted this morning that Bruno *will* be driving for Williams next season. No doubt more to follow, as even Bruno says he doesn't know! Found this snippet on the BBC F1 homepage.


A good move for Bruno if it's true.

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But I found the predicted viewing stats at the end of this article (linked from above) more interesting reading!

4-6m per race for the BBC vs 0.5-1m per race for Sky.

The likely impact (as discussed) on interview times, etc will be interesting to see.

I certainly have no plans to go out and get Sky for a few F1 races this year

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I still don't know if I get the F1 channel. I have Virgin Media TV with the Sky Sports package, so I bloody well hope I do!

Rotten luck on Kubica - not like he was driving a snowmobile or anything stupid, eh Kimi?

I'm expecting great things of Ferrari in 2012 - at least they should be competitive with all the recruiting they've been doing.

The mole is back, linked from Joe Saward's blog, suggesting that Adrian Newey could be tempted back to Williams if they offer him a shareholding. Could be the ultimate (in both senses) challenge in his career for him to restore Williams to the top...

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From what i've read you will get the F1 channel (non-HD) if you have the Sky Sports package (1,2,3,4 not just 1,2)

You'll only get HD if you're paying the £5 or whatever it is for HD Sports.

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Originally Posted By: Truffle
From what i've read you will get the F1 channel (non-HD) if you have the Sky Sports package (1,2,3,4 not just 1,2)

You'll only get HD if you're paying the £5 or whatever it is for HD Sports.


I think I have the full Sky Sports (cricket is often not on 1 or 2 and until F1 moved that was my only reason for paying for it). Looks like no HD, sadly, cos I'm not ponying up any more...

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Looks like its fair to say we won't be seeing Sutil in a Lotus anytime soon...... AutoSport News - Sutil in Court

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From what i've read you will get the F1 channel (non-HD) if you have the Sky Sports package (1,2,3,4 not just 1,2)

You'll only get HD if you're paying the £5 or whatever it is for HD Sports.


I think I have the full Sky Sports (cricket is often not on 1 or 2 and until F1 moved that was my only reason for paying for it). Looks like no HD, sadly, cos I'm not ponying up any more...


Here you go, F1 on Virgin confirmed

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Well, that's a silver dollar in the cow-pat of my week! Thanks, Truffle.

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I have to say I have had the Sky Sports package for the last 6 years, mainly for Golf, but I am hoping the F1 addition will prove to be a positive step up from the BBC coverage which was already excellent.


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Damon Hill last one in for Sky: http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/7438312/Damon-Hill-joins-Sky-team

Keen to see how Sky approach this now. Am sure they will be giving it the full treatment.

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Senna gets the Williams drive. Bye-bye Rubinho!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/16587505.stm

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Doesn't make any difference to me, but I'm a little surprised. I thought he was a person who would stand up for the sport?

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Senna gets the Williams drive. Bye-bye Rubinho!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/16587505.stm


Very sad to see Reubens dumped like this, gutted for him, although I suspect some of his whinges during the season may not have enamoured himself to the team.


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Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell
Senna gets the Williams drive. Bye-bye Rubinho!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/16587505.stm


Off to drive for the team that stood in court, accused of his uncles death!! Are they also trying to heal old wounds??

However I did think Senna's driving was improving quite smoothly duing the last season.


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That smells of something to me - just ten days ago they passed it?!

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I think it would have been difficult to regulate. The software could be set in any number of ways to lower the average ride height during the race, but to hold the correct height when stationary. Much better not to have it IMO.

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Caterham 2012 car launch and they've signed up to use KERS.

And Pirelli introduce new tyres


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Looks like F1 are trying to include a french track for 2013.
I will try to find an English link.
Here is a French link for the mo. http://sports.orange.fr/infos/f1/201204/la-france-a-faim-de-f1_409703.html

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Mmm Now having read it through,its an outside chance really. Swapping on a yearly basis with Spa !!!. Where is Jim when i need him ?



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Yes. the chance of it happening does look a bit remote.

It looks like an interministerial meeting has agreed in principle to form a committee to finance a Grand Prix with public money. It talks of the big question being negotiating with F1 paymaster Bernie Ecclestone.

It seems that Spa could be taken off the calendar after 2012 as it's contract expires then and the Walloon government has to be prepared to make financial guarantees to the ownners of Formula 1 which could be difficult with far east rivals being prepared to pay a lot for the privilege of hosting GPs.

The French want to bring it back to the Paul Ricard circuit at Castellet in the Var which held GPs until 4 years ago, alternating with the Belgian Spa- Francorchamps circuit.


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F1 wouldn't be the same without Spa. Why can't they alternate Paul Ricard with 1 of the more boring tracks.

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Ferrari reveal new Highland dancing team .......scroll down to the photo! laugh


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Ferrari reveal new Highland dancing team .......scroll down to the photo! laugh


I'd rather not know how the guy with the beard is lifting Filippe Massa off the ground shocked

He's clearly not using his hands....!

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Sutil, complete with criminal record; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16810585


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Sutil, complete with criminal record; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16810585


Muppet!!!

(Sutil, not you, Stan wink )

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Re: earlier comments about French GP - petep has it bang on, except it's been a lot longer than 4 years since the last GP in the Var!
It's a lovely spot, Le Castellet, but the traffic will be nothing short of horrific if there isn't major infrastructure upgrading.

Beginning to get excited about the season ahead. I think the cars are going to be interesting, if not exactly classically beautiful!

Ferrari seem to have committed to a different design, with shortened sidepods. Will the gamble pay off?

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Yes, you are right Jim it was Magny Cours near Nevers that hosted the last French GPs wasn't it.


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Years ago, when I was involved in keeping the Canal de Nivernais open I used to go to a village cafe in the area run by a family named Magny.


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McLaren launch today, sorry no link as I'm using my phone to post this! Looks like they have a much more elegant solution to the nose issue than Caterham!!

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"McLaren have not won the constructors' title since 1998."

Bloomn eck! Has it really been that long?! shocked

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My word, that is one ugly nose!

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If it goes as well as it looks Ferrari have it in the bag! love


You think? Commendably brave and innovative, but that broken nose spoils the looks for me. I think the McLaren is a prettier beast.

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Has anyone listened to Gary Anderson's view on the new McLaren via the iPlayer?

He seems to think they've gone down the wrong path with their 'pretty' interpretation of the new rules.

Could be McLaren are the odd ones out ooo



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Can I propose negative points for having a car that's sodding ugly? To be decided by the Coupe Club F1 threads. Make F1 a bit more like QI.

Seriously, F1 wants to be a global sport. And has chosen to achieve this by having a grid of cars that look like they have been in a fight. And lost. WTF?


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Hmmm. So that's Caterham, Ferrari and Force India all going down the duck billed platypus route, and only McLaren (so far) building something 'pretty'. I hope the old adage of it looks right it goes right works here, and the others soon adopt a similar approach. Or hav McLaren got it badly wrong for the sake of aesthetics?

Time will tell I guess.

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Lotus copy the broken nose design....... but it doesn't look quite as bad as some of the others.


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And a nice little slideshow of the designs so far.


McLaren have the edge in the looks department but the front wing aero looks a bit complex?


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Seems they've found a half way house between platypus and pretty.

I just hope McLaren have got it right about compromising the floor!

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Originally Posted By: stan


Well almost.

Wonder what the air intake atop the nose does?



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Originally Posted By: bezzer
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Well almost.

Wonder what the air intake atop the nose does?



It allows air to enter....obvious, innit! tongue


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Well almost.

Wonder what the air intake atop the nose does?



It allows air to enter....obvious, innit! tongue


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BBC carrying live text coverage of pre-season testing. No pictures or video yet* frown

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16914962

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More coverage here, but again just text based but, in my 'umble opinion, a better, clearer layout; http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/435


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Originally Posted By: bezzer
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Well almost.

Wonder what the air intake atop the nose does?



Possibly to cool KERS as RB had problems with it over-heating last year.....either that or it helps the smoke from a burning KERS unit escape? laugh


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Originally Posted By: stan
More coverage here, but again just text based but, in my 'umble opinion, a better, clearer layout; http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/435


I don't know who is in charge of BBC Web design (or, more importantly, who they use to assess "usability") but the BBC site, so long a paragon of good Web usability, is a right mess. Even with cookies set, it takes me about 4 clicks to get to a detailed breakdown of the weather yet, after one click, I get to find out where the coldest and warmest place in the world is... WTF?

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I don't know who is in charge of BBC Web design (or, more importantly, who they use to assess "usability") but the BBC site, so long a paragon of good Web usability, is a right mess. Even with cookies set, it takes me about 4 clicks to get to a detailed breakdown of the weather yet, after one click, I get to find out where the coldest and warmest place in the world is... WTF?


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Interestingly, although these are just shake-down laps, Raikkonen is absolutely flying in the Lotus (formerly known as Renault)! Probably way too early to tell anything from the times and perhaps that's him peaked for this season but he seems happy enough back in a F1 car.....


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Interestingly, although these are just shake-down laps, Raikkonen is absolutely flying in the Lotus (formerly known as Renault)! Probably way too early to tell anything from the times and perhaps that's him peaked for this season but he seems happy enough back in a F1 car.....


Even a Marussia would fly with a thimble full of fuel in it's tank wink



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Hmm, not so sure Mr Bezzer, his lap time is a sub 1m 20s last time I looked, and even with a thimble of fuel he's fair going some......


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Hmm, not so sure Mr Bezzer, his lap time is a sub 1m 20s last time I looked, and even with a thimble of fuel he's fair going some......


Ahhh but remember after last year's first day of testing, Reubens in a Williams was fastest crazy



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The other thing to note is that he's out in front on the slower medium tyre, everyone else is trying on the faster softs. seems strange to me. No doubt the FIA will find an infringement on his car! laugh


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The other thing to note is that he's out in front on the slower medium tyre, everyone else is trying on the faster softs. seems strange to me.


True!



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Quoting from Autosport Live;

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By way of a meaningless comparison, the fastest time on the first day of last year's Jerez test was a 1m20.709s by Massa. Fastest today so far is Raikkonen in 1m19.670s. Don't read too much into that though.



In other words, like we all know, first day of testing pre-season means sod all! laugh

There were a few people that I spoke with last year who appeared confident that Ferrari had it "in the bag" after pre-season testing and the McLarens performed so miserably....then again, we now know that McLaren had to do a massive amount of work to catch up before the season started! laugh


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Quoting from BBC Sport - Day one of pre-season testing;

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That 1:20.5 is a decent time from Kimi Raikkonen this early in the running. The fastest time in last year's Jerez test was a 1:19.8 from Rubens Barrichello's Williams....



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Someone, somewhere, has their timings muddled up..... laugh


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BBC coverage of this is really annoying. They keep going on about Schumacher and Rosberg topping the timing sheets, but they are driving last years car! It has no relevance at all. The rest of the feild look a lot closer than last year, but as above it is early days and last year did show promise for some teams that never materialised in the season.

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Anybody know off hand when Sky's F1 channel starts?

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Originally Posted By: MeanRedSpider
Anybody know off hand when Sky's F1 channel starts?


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Cool - ta - wasn't encouraged when I checked Sky's site only to be met with a blank black screen...

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Lotus (formerly Renault) seem to have a big problem and it sounds like it could set them back a fair way!


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Strangeness abounds when it comes to testing....... chinny


Are Ferrari really "struggling to understand their car"?


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Strangeness abounds when it comes to testing....... chinny


Are Ferrari really "struggling to understand their car"?



Journalists have been using that line since the first test, when one of the senior Ferrari types used it. I think it was more a reference to the radical design and a bit of a throwaway comment than any serious "What the...?" issue!

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Ooooh,

The F1 channel has appeared in my VirginMedia Menu laugh

Channel 516 if anyone is wondering.

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Ooooh,

The F1 channel has appeared in my VirginMedia Menu laugh

Channel 516 if anyone is wondering.


Mine too - but I think it's just a "holding" channel, ahead of the new channel going live


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Ok its not exactly F1 news but:

KV Racing have announced that veteran racer Rubens Barrichello, who was dropped in favour of Bruno Senna at Williams, will join the team alongside Tony Kanaan for the upcoming IndyCar season.

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Originally Posted By: Truffle
Ooooh,

The F1 channel has appeared in my VirginMedia Menu laugh

Channel 516 if anyone is wondering.


Sky channel has now come on too channel 408 nothing but a 1 hour loop at the moment though

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Ok its not exactly F1 news but:

KV Racing have announced that veteran racer Rubens Barrichello, who was dropped in favour of Bruno Senna at Williams, will join the team alongside Tony Kanaan for the upcoming IndyCar season.
I think that's really sad. I liked Reubens, he never lived up to expectations but he was a really nice guy (probably why he didn't live up to expectations) He should have announced his retirement (maybe a year ago laugh ) and stepped down with grace rather than see out his years in Indy rolleyes Surrounded by madmen and wannabe drivers he'll only come a cropper frown

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New design of Red Bull revealed this morning. There seems to be quite a bit of excitement around it. The times Mark Webber has done though aren't stunningly quick so it'll be interesting to see how it shapes up

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Red Bull redesign their 2012 chassis confused

Are they taking the mickey or did they really have issues?

And should the other teams be worried that RB were already fast anyway before the fairly hefty redesign?

I have my doubts that Adrian Newey has suddenly lost his ability to "see" air flow, so I think I'd be very worried.....


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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1323630
09/03/2012 20:22
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Remember folks the F1 Chanel starts tonight at 8.

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1323714
09/03/2012 22:46
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Originally Posted By: MrB
Remember folks the F1 Chanel starts tonight at 8.

£22.50 to add it to my Virgin package and it's NOT HD frown BBC it is for me this year.


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Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1324028
11/03/2012 01:41
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Just finished watching the Senna movie, christ I hope it's a safe season. Saying that I don't mind watching the odd webber flip, just as long as everybody walks away from it wink

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1324111
11/03/2012 12:45
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Am I missing something? I can currently get the f1 channel despite my basic subscription not including sports or hd. Will this just disappear once the action starts?

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1324115
11/03/2012 12:52
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I think Sky are doing a freebie at the start.... maybe take up has been slow!

Re: F1 2012 - All the news [Re: ] #1324116
11/03/2012 12:54
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Gotta say, the Sky dedicated channel looks great to me love

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