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Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297564
14/12/2011 22:25
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Or the grass in my case .


Nothing wrong with trimming the lawn a bit and scaring the wildlife. laugh
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Dont forget to give me a running commentary Bruv.

Will keep you in the loop for sure wink

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297573
14/12/2011 22:46
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Good luck tomorrow fella.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297575
14/12/2011 23:23
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Thanks Bud.

Looks like we may have snow out west?

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297576
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Magician - work your magic tomorrow.

I'll try and phone and annoy you tomorrow.

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Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297581
15/12/2011 00:10
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Originally Posted by Barbz
Thanks Bud.

Looks like we may have snow out west?



Hope not!Only in your case!I'll have a look and report back in a sec.

*40% chance of rain in and around bristol between 12pm and 4pm...Otherwise overcast...*

Wish I had the petrol to come up and have a look at you monster somepoint during the day frown

Hang on....25 mile train journey...wonder how much a ticket will cost... chinny

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Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297597
15/12/2011 06:46
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Get it shipped over here Barbz, the weather is perfect at the moment, I've not seen a cloud for about two weeks! smile

I'm sure Leighton would appreciate the weather, roads and night life whilst working his magic.




Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297617
15/12/2011 09:21
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Originally Posted by sparco
Barbz no it's not but i'm assuming your train of thought is that we switch to an external WG and at the same time change the manifold, yes?

The GTX does look like a very nice piece of kit.

Just FYI i'm running 450bhp with just over 400 lbs at 1.7 bar just now on the GT2871R. We have also changed the pipework to shorten it dramamtically which has made a big difference.


What difference has this made Marco.
Also what diameter are you using as Barbz told me mine were too big.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297637
15/12/2011 10:30
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Barbz i'm still using one of your TI stage 2 heads with C&B cams and back on a ported standard manifold. Running a 7800 rpm but it does creep up to 8k when i'm hunting stuff down.

The pipe work we shortened was the intercooler pipes, specifically the one from the drivers side of the IC back, it now goes in a straight line to the turbo. We've modified some of the others too to suit our needs.


Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297643
15/12/2011 11:03
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To piping of the FMIC – a diameter of 60mm ID is sufficient for most applications…
I did following calculation – up to a gas speed of 0,4 mach the pipe diameter is ok, gas speed > 0,4mach will lead to increased loss.
When calculating the air consumption for 650HP and 60mm, you will get 0,4 Mach (is ok), at 750HP you will get 0,45Mach… (not sooo good any more).
Bigger piping will affect in nothing but slower response…
Juergen

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Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297645
15/12/2011 11:05
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Yes we only shortened the pipework, we didn't alter the diameter Juergen/JBT

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297652
15/12/2011 11:34
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Air speed concerns before the last few inch in a forced induction is wasted, it's mass that matters. I'll take slow mass over fast anyday. We've been here before and I'm just saying, no need for an argument. Just think about what the air is trying to do, the mass is there regardless of how fast it's moving but if it's being forced through that's when a delay comes into play.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297653
15/12/2011 11:35
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By the way, great sounding engine Barbz, I'm not dissing you.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297658
15/12/2011 11:49
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The air also has to be compressed. Response is about how quickly you can put the mass of air that is in there under pressure, taking into account where it's going into of course.


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Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297664
15/12/2011 12:01
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Compressor wheel does what it says on the tin if you let it turn.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297689
15/12/2011 13:19
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Originally Posted by sparco
The pipe work we shortened was the intercooler pipes, specifically the one from the drivers side of the IC back, it now goes in a straight line to the turbo. We've modified some of the others too to suit our needs.

This is what I did too, straight from the turbo to the FMIC.
How much difference was there? (I never even tried the long-2x180deg-route, so I don't know..) smile

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297695
15/12/2011 13:35
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Not sure Per as we had chanegd a few other things too. You've been in it round Spa with me what do you think.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297715
15/12/2011 15:52
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Just received an interesting text with Barbz new power output, a smiley summary would be shocked laugh hehe rofl woohoo driving


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297719
15/12/2011 15:59
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i too have recieved texts..

all i will say it OH MY GOD!!

and well done to all!!!

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Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: Begbie] #1297722
15/12/2011 16:04
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Fasten your seat belt! cool
569hp, 448torque @ 1.7bar love

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297726
15/12/2011 16:10
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Seriously?! That's ridiculous!!

Well done to everyone involved, that's mental!


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Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297727
15/12/2011 16:12
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Great stuff, Barbz & Flea thumb

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297729
15/12/2011 16:18
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Fantastic results well done.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297730
15/12/2011 16:18
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569hp.. Ok!! Christ.. laugh

Originally Posted by sparco
Not sure Per as we had chanegd a few other things too. You've been in it round Spa with me what do you think.

What I think? Uncomparable. smile Your Coupe's a very nice monster that's all I can say.. Thanx again for the ride!

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297731
15/12/2011 16:19
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Originally Posted by Barbz
Fasten your seat belt! cool
569hp, 448torque @ 1.7bar love


Awesome stuff!Well done bud and all involved thumb Think I need to re-evaluate where I want to go with mine after seeing those results.Fresh plans and ideas with you required before I bring it to you next year...

So the question to be asked now is.......where are you going to go from here?What are your limits tongue

Once again.Well done bud.

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297739
15/12/2011 16:42
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geezer, nice one Barbz

when you adding the shots of NO2?

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297742
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top result , Barbz & Flea

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297743
15/12/2011 16:53
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Bloody brilliant result!

Look forward to a passenger ride very soon!


Now in the 400+ bhp club!
Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297762
15/12/2011 17:33
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WOW, congrats smile

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297769
15/12/2011 18:21
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Considering that mavric got 600bhp on race fuel, to get 569bhp on what I presume is 99ron, is just amazing.

And considering that this is Barbz just finding his feet again, I can only imagine that 600bhp will be broken soon enough.

Ross

Re: Heartbreaker pt 2, 504bhp, 400trq @ 1.5bar! [Re: ] #1297770
15/12/2011 18:27
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Nice results Barbz and Leighton cool


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