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Track cars... #1374710
05/09/2012 00:25
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After going to the track day the other day with a run out in a couple of motors i really want a track motor.

Out in the cinq the other day realised how much fun a it can be.

What track cars do you have or used to have.

I will be looking at a car over ten years old, easy to work on, small and under £1k to buy. I can then insure on classic insurance.


Any suggestions,happy to learn aswell to do things. Im thinking a 106 gti, ax gt if i can find one. Maybe even a clio 1.8 16v.

Let me know


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Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374718
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Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374719
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Nice idea Reubs, liking the Alfa link yes

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374724
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Jap..na gotta be road legal..Nothing turbo..Just engine.


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Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374725
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Im calling the 145 one tomorrow.


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Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374728
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just strip a VIS out and track that. no turbo no issues just make it handle like on rails and lighten it as much as you can


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Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374730
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Theres a lovely vis on ebay...

actually gone. I wanted a smaller car to fit in my garage.

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Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374757
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Alfa is still available... Awaiting a further. See if i can get this cheap and be at the track day later in october.


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Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374779
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As you know after seeing the Cinq, lightness is the key if you don't have mega power. I would say a 172 but that's a bit predictable laugh

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374781
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Also, don't be fooled into thinking the cost will stay under £1k.

Remember James' cinq build cost several times that smile

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374785
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Go with a saxo, vtr or vts. Loads of off the shelf parts available.

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Re: Track cars... [Re: Countrycruising] #1374802
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Re: Track cars... [Re: barnacle] #1374840
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
16NA coupe if you can find one.


Et voila...

16v NA coupe for sale

Re: Track cars... [Re: Hovedan] #1374863
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16NA coupe if you can find one.


Et voila...

16v NA coupe for sale


Too slow.

1k is too little a budget for a decent track car.

As i have siad before a fully stripped 172 just about kept with a tuned non stripped dc5 on track running 250bhp not many tuned coupes could.

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Any of these would be perfect, especially the 205 or 325. Trackdays are not about racing, so you don't actually have to go faster than anyone else... You just want the car to handle as well as possible and be good fun.

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374876
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I ran a c.£1k 306 GTI-6 as a road/track car and it was great.

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374877
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Personally I'd probably go for an old MX5 but that doesn't fit the Jap bit. Didn't look closely at the 145 ad but make sure it's the earlier twinspark motor with chain-driven cams. Reasonably bullet-proof. Suspension bushes are probably the biggest issue with that car - but the same is true for many cars of that period.

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These are super in the corners, http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motor...ition/109264860

I had one briefly and loved it, Really! I found the 130bhp claim a bit false though, They need decent exhusts etc to get them flying.

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374884
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I used to run a Honda CRX - very lightly modded (a grand's worth of Bilstein suspension) and it absolutely flew

Fantastic engine, low weight, good basic chassis geometry.

Get a rust-free V-Tec and thrash it silly - it'll take everything you can throw at it and keep coming back for more


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Imo, the 205 gti is too old and fragile to track regularly. I'm a big fan of them, but I wouldn't take mine to a track day.

If you go down the 205 route don't pay the premium for a good gti shell. Buy an injected base model and bolt the goodies on. Things like anti roll bars and increased camber rear arms bolt straight on. Likewise you could fit a tuned Saxo vts, or gti6 motor and spank far more expensive machinery. The good thing with the peugeot is that it's tried and tested.

For 1K I think you could build a vary capable machine.

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1374985
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1 k will get you a bucket of a track car fact.

buy a 172 cup strip it dont mod it prep it with nice rubber and go simples forget vts you would need a cammed setup to be nearly as quick a 172 cup.

keep N/A for track in my op.

And remember the car will need prep for a event which isnt cheap brakes,oil,filter,track alingment.

dont waste money on tuning them as from my own experiance tuning them was very bad gains for ££

To add 172 wont get passed that much im trying to find the video vs tuned dc5 smile

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Re: Track cars... [Re: ] #1375005
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Well being as people are giving advice on cars they had which fit the bill...

I had a Alfa 75 3.0v6. Absolute hoot on track and the noise was love But it was a MONEYPIT. Don't go near one laugh

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I actually own a very rare ax gti that maybe for sale
Citunings old demo car
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Was going to drop the 16v engine with a turbo on it but never got around to it.


Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1375029
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clio 172
Civic type R
106/saxo vts gti
306 gti 6
DC2 integra

All good cars with plenty of off the shelf bits or save a bit more and I'll sell you a tipo with a few track bits on it.....

Re: Track cars... [Re: coupedummy] #1375042
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Well up to 1k was for the base which i can then build on.

Have been offered a very interesting car.

Unsure yet,

Its originally a 1.3..
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Its a ford ka 1.3 turbo!


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You said no turbos tongue

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