This program stooped to a new low in "wheeler dealing" last night with this episode. They picked up a DB7 for £12.5k, spent "£2k" fixing it up, before selling it for £15k. A whole £500 "profit". Nonsensical profit at that.

http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/photos/wheeler-dealers-10-aston-martin-db7/

This took the "expenses to fix" to a whole new level of bull doo-doos. 2 new genuine Aston Martin exhaust manifolds for £250. I phoned them this morning, and was quoted £480 + vat, each.

Regardless of the fact they don't include any labour.

Loved the "free" laser alignment. How much was the kit?

I was spitting venom!!

I love the line "cheapest DB7's now at £16,000". Why sell it to a dealer for £15k then?

Completely pointless program imho.

*Rant ends*

LMAO! Dan its a show I don't think the point is for it to be totally realistic Its entertaining...

Take a deep breath

haha best not watch Classic Car Rescue then!

I was amazed to see them get 2 18" 245/40 Toyos for £260, but it seems Camskill do sell them for £130 each.

hahahaha indeed

Never seen it - do they wear sheepskin jackets by any chance?

This program gives us sheepskin coat wearers a bad name

The cheapness of some of the interior switches was comical. The key looked like it came from an escort.

The car is on PH for £15,500.

I have't seen it yet, I recorded it last night and plan to watch it this afternoon with my grandson who is a huge fan.

That's because they had! Ford wanted Aston to start making a profit for once in their life, and by and large Fords input saved Aston long term.

The episode is a good one. I'm a big fan of wheeler dealers, and take the sale part and summary list with a pinch of salt.

You don't need the program to do that

Is it repeated soon? Forgot to set the box.

So when's the Fiat Coupé featuring then? Can't help but think if we were all as familiar with the cars on the show as we are with the Fiat's we'd spot loads wrong. I remember watching the Peugeot 205 one thinking something was off.

The Lancia Integrale show episode was "interesting"!

There's a cerbera on this series. That should be expensive!

Think you're missing the point Dan, it's not about profit, it's about the love of restoring iconic motors! It's a cracking show. In fact half the cars they 'sell' are not sold but production crew pretend to be the buyer. They often end up on ebay. I have the name of the ebay account at home that Paul (Ed's mechanic mate) uses to sell the cars and spares they didn't use. I'll post it on here later.

Don't forget the bromance between two men who have a passion for cars

The tall one is Marco and the Brewer lookylikey is Mario

hahahaha thanks John!

It's repeated on Thursday at 8pm.

I have to say the Aston Martin was the most common "Supercar" when visiting central London last weekend, they have certainly managed to rescue the brand... for now.

Out of all the motoring programmes that aren't Top Gear (Fifth Gear, American Hot Rod, Pimp My Ride and some other show which involves a dad and his sons and some other guys working on classic cars, which may or may not be American Hot Rod, or it might actually be motorbikes that they are working on, I don't know) Wheeler Dealers is the best.

Two gripes though...one, the cars they pick are in the dullest colours and two, when are they going to have a Fiat Coupe on the show!?!

All very amusing.. This is one of those TV prog' that you tune in hang on & take it for what it is.....Simple.

Nothing to get excited about.

I brought Mike Brewer back from Afghan after his little mix up with the Taliban, a Chinook Helicopter, some gunfire and the pilot being shot in the face.
Although at the time he was on a bit of an emotional roller coaster he seemed a really genuine guy who had a passion for cars and a great working relationship with Ed.

I did enjoy watching wheeler dealers (don't get it over here) the repair prices are a load of tosh, but I enjoyed it more for watching Ed doing the restoration than Mike haggling for parts.

Couldn't have a fiat coupe on. It would cost 2 much to fix, Ed would go on a killing rampage mid fix and he wouldn't make a profit. In fact it would probably bankrupt the show.

Don't get me wrong I still love watching it, but the show is becoming a little bit simpler.

Back in the day they would show exactly what was needed to fix something, but now they scoot over some of the detail and show the finished article.

Does anyone else watch Fast N Loud on Discovery? Thats good fun.

Fast and loud (gas monkey) is the best real car programme on tv at the moment . These episodes were shown last year but its still great tv .

Before I go on you must take on board that I'm an old fart!

OK, now we have that out of the way let me offer my critique of the programme. As with many TV programmes nowadays one must question its purpose. I watch the show but purely as an insight into the vehicle they are playing with. Wheeler dealers is offering an idea but the application of it is a farce, and fool on anyone who watches it with any degree of belief. With regard costs, you can often notice new parts fitted to the cars, brakes are common, but they never appear on their calculations. They clearly loose money on almost every car they feature.

It's much like the top gear races. The one car that has won them all is the black Range Rover camera car! There is no challenge, there is no race, it's just another TV competition that isn't really a competition. Yes the camera work is fantastic and the locations are great. So why don't they just ditch the stupid race element and replace all the pointless shots of the two goons on a train, bus, boat with more shots of the cars?

Many people gloss over the failings and errors of such shows and defend them by saying "It's only entertainment". I can appreciate this argument but as almost all motoring shows on TV are like this nowadays am I to accept that we, as a nation, are now so dumb that this is now the accepted level for TV producers to aim?

Your such an old fart Bob
Fair points though

I LOVE Fast N Loud, it's a cracking show and has made me appreciate some of the US cars.

Yes it's a bit in your face but I love the fact they sell their cars at auction and sometimes "lose their a$$" taking a massive loss.

spot on John

LMFAO!! so i look like shaggy from Scooby doo! thanks!

your right about Mario.. short "stumpy" nearly bald bloke

I had a choice of watching car sos or counting cars last night . I have seen the work counting cars does on pawn stars as they use him to fix bikes or cars . So i thought counting cars would not be very good not a fan of american chopper bikes .I was pleasantly surprised the hour i watched last night . Its a good programme so far and i like the bullitt Mustang they put together .

I really enjoy watching Wheeler Dealers. I have the Velocity channel here in the USA and it has 24hr car shows. Fatal :-)

Okay so they usually make a huge loss on all the cars once you factor in any labour. For me the interesting part is watching Ed diagnose the problem, find the cheapest solution and fix the car.

I've seen a couple of episodes of Counting Cars and they do top work. However they do tend to completely ignore the customers budget and do whatever work they think is necessary to get the best result. I saw one episode where Danny bought another car and the staff were annoyed as they had to find room for it in the back with his collection of about 50 cars.

I've watched a little bit of West Coast Customs and they are amazing. Bespoke solutions and I dread to think how much some of those cars cost to modify.

John

I rather watch these 'small' nut and bolt programmes with the sometimes added setup drama and holes so big you can drive through several times over than the bafoon that is Top Gear shite.

Escort Mk1 on next, should be interesting, there will be loads of room in th engine bay compared to the plumbing and electrics a modern car now has.

Loads of room?

Not when you fit a ford Dutatec in there!

Just watching this now. It was painful watching Ed replace the suspension hub and brake assembly and not the wishbones with the obviously ruined bushes. The boot on the track rod end was split too. The old Ed would have replaced the lot! Ah well

Still the LSD replacement was very interesting!

^ Yes, I thought that too. It looked like there were a few new parts on the car which didn't get mentioned.

No comments in this weeks Boxster episode?

Buying a 3.2 s with a slipping auto box for £1k, only to change the gearbox ATF and its all fine?!?!!!! Why wouldn't the owner try that first?

Agreed it look to be too obvious. Still the car turned out very well in the end, although I'm not sure I'd have spent £1k changing the lights over, I can't imagine they made the value increase by much!

Indeed, then spend hundres on "white" lights only to fit amber rather than mirrored bulbs.

The car had sat for 4 years! In 4 months my coupes disks looked like ritz crackers. Who re they kidding?

Sat for 4 years and they didn't even give it a service too

Been stood for 4 years and he takes it round the block to check. Filmed in a funny order me thinks.

Wheeler dealers - don't get me started

are tyres free in Wheeler dealer world?

Seems it.

And labour
And advertising
And overheads

etc etc!

Did anyone watch the Cerbera edition? The bloke who sold it is a friend of a friend.

God knows how they made any money on it and once again they fluttered over the detailed information. One minute Ed China was saying he wants to take the body off the car and then he decides to take the engine out first. Next minute the engine is out - barely even showing what they had to remove.

As I've said so many times before....you take the likes of wheeler dealers & similar with a tiny bit of salt. They are what they are...tune in & hang on. Can't help smiling to myself when some take these shows a tad too seriously.

For me, wheeler dealers is an easy to watch simple delve into the cars most would like to own, or at least drive. No silly swearing or stupid strops......easy to watch. Sure it's cheesey, if you don't do cheese don't watch...simple