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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507044
10/09/2014 00:52
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You have a pit.....and lights..... bow


And a sleeping bag I presume laugh




Most of this is over my head, but a good read nevertheless!


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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507047
10/09/2014 01:15
10/09/2014 01:15

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Minus one light now. rolleyes

Probably will move into garage for the winter. crazy

I am totally out of my depth - but that`s life. laugh

Simon, I have some honeycomb speaker grilles from Alfa 145 - when I noticed the pattern I thought of you. They need a mod. to fit though but I thought a nice touch for your car.
Free to you, PM me if you want them, I also have a hardly used blue Bailey, sadly not free.

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507051
10/09/2014 01:36
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Ha! Thanks Jon for the speaker offer - do you mean the door grilles?

I'll bear in mind the Irish Cream....just testing out my cleaned-up item over the next few days smile


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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507053
10/09/2014 01:44
10/09/2014 01:44

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Yes, but the tabs do not align so ally tabs would need to be screwed on, but would not be seen. I will try to mock an image for you in the next few days. Obviously they are mint.

If you remind me of your addy, i`ll post for free too, just not till October.

I bought new originals as some person had smeared copper-slip all over them. Impossible to clean up.

p.s. The worst bit of your DV is the dreadful plastic connection to the actuator. I think the oil difference is down to the HKS multi-venting but at a different velocity, somehow the oil does not appear. I won`t be burning the oil for much longer as breather system is getting the ²ö¿²ö treatment.

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507479
12/09/2014 22:23
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click to enlarge

Free bees to go with the freebies, I`ll mod. them for you, pm you when they are done. Don`t hold your breath though - up to my neck in things for a while.

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507482
12/09/2014 22:31
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rofl

Shame to spoil it laugh

That's a lot of trouble Jon, should I putting in a vote for the Stannary?

Maybe you could mock up a couple of wings at the same time laugh


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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507485
12/09/2014 22:41
12/09/2014 22:41

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I`ll enjoy it. Will cut genuine FIAT tabs off my old ones and pin them on with cfc pins probably. Round here we are used to working for nothing anyway! laugh

p.s. I liberated the bees from our admin department today.

Can`t be in any more trouble than i`m in already as during a particularly stupid low-flying incident yesterday, `my pilot` hit a tree. crazy

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1507661
14/09/2014 14:13
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Really interesting reading all round, like an episode of CSI!

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: t0m0] #1508244
18/09/2014 01:19
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Thank-you for reading - there is more to come.
I`ve never seen the show, however, I suspect my eldest son would say i`m more `the wire-in HD` - but he is a cynic. smile

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1508819
22/09/2014 00:32
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Once you've finished fettling Jon she's going to look mighty smart as well as packing a punch. The headlights are awesomely shiny smile

Here's hoping no ill has come out of Pandora's box!


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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1509101
23/09/2014 22:34
23/09/2014 22:34

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Just had a catch up on the build thread mate..

sorry to her the bad news that she's been in a crash at some point and with the welding that needs doing..
that's the trouble when cars get to this sort of age, can look mint frm the outside but peel back that carpet and boy what a can of worms!! Lol

luckily iv been very lucky with the 4 coupes iv had vus far, saying that though I do check them over with a magnifier!! Lol
on more than one occasion iv had to walk away as the owners wouldn't let me jack the cars up for a good pock around!

Have you do anymore work regarding the blower?? Very very intrested in doing the same to my red moded coupe..
maybe install the bmw mini supercharger?? Been looking into it but unsure which unit wi
Fit best as they aren't cheap if I buy the wrong type! Lol

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1509314
25/09/2014 01:30
25/09/2014 01:30

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The lights are new. I`m glad they pass muster. smile

I would not recommend even considering a blower mod. until you had tried other ways of reducing lag - like reducing your turbo pipework length to minimum, matching turbo/cooler/pipe i.d. to airflow required.
I can`t go into any detail at this time but I have another couple of ideas to develop. I also have to be offline for some time, so, apologies. (will pm you Clive when I have some more info)
All the best.
Jon
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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1509316
25/09/2014 02:54
25/09/2014 02:54

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Never say never though.
One of 3 very different setups tried in one evening.
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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1509317
25/09/2014 03:43
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Hi jon.. its not so much the lag im trying to reduce as my engine was rebuilt by barbz himself who has done head work, matched intake, outtake ect ect, hybrid bearing turbo ect ect so theirs very little lag thanks to the magic hands of babrbz! Lol
iv got one of his old coupes you see and he rebuilt the engine ect before it was sold.

so the blower idea is just more for pure fun factor! Lol.. as she's only my wkend toy not my daily driver..

Speak soon mate...Clive

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1509358
25/09/2014 15:50
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Well, watch this space...

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1509658
28/09/2014 17:27
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@ mr_cheese : you have a pm
@ world : hello
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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1511154
10/10/2014 10:25
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You're a bit mental attempting a twin charging project with so little room in the engine bay, but hats off to you sir! If I was you, I would see if you can get in contact with 2 people. One is a chap who has twin charged a Volvo 850 T5 and another who has twin charged a Misti Evo, although the latter will want a small fee for information, but needless to say, his RR graph is like walking up Snowdon, all the way to about 800bhp!


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1511522
13/10/2014 15:18
13/10/2014 15:18

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I have been making room except I forgot about the strut brace so for the intended install I require an alternative brace.

Thanks for the heads up re other twin-chargers but the point is I wanted to do no reverse engineering so have designed a valve I call SICV which has 4 ports and bolts on. The prototype is too bulky and will take time to decide on the best type of internal valves and getting the response time down - it needs to outperform driver reactions, not a problem with most people. I`m still working on the electronics which incidentally I have dabbled in since I was 3. I`m quite out of practice though and an aftermarket ecu is the favoured option. Throttle body already modded with control switch and probably f.t. scramble switch also for the as and when.

I have heard there is also a twin charged Scirocco (old shape) but again I don`t want to look until I have finished the build.

As for being a bit mental i`m frankly insulted...

I`m completely mental. laugh

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1512193
19/10/2014 11:27
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I got this old game fired up today after some teething troubles running such an oldie.
I couldn`t believe how off the pace I was or how hard work it is to go flat out, the amount of wheel and pedal input needed is huge and how sweaty you get.
Point is, racing games are a good way to learn race tracks. I doubt i`ll get to any foreign circuit and I think my choice in UK would be oulton park so i`ll pound round there for a while in case I get the chance to do it for real.

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1512368
20/10/2014 20:21
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Conspiracy initiated. laugh

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1512379
20/10/2014 21:09
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Theres a marea in the fiat forum which started out as a plain 20 valve and he bolted a mini cooper s blower on it where the air con compressor went. He did a nice job too. So theres half the battle perhaps?

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1512396
20/10/2014 22:49
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It is far more complex than people realize when there is also a turbo. No offense intended either.

This motors installation is not friendly to add a blower even in N/A guise as to drive from crank the blower would be sited too close to exhaust and the length of pipework would negate some of the benefit. Having said that, adding to a N/A engine is very possible and if boost level is kept sensible a small re-map would be required with no other mods.

It took Lancia a whole season to iron out the balance at a cost of how many million - not Lira either.
I believe other manufacturers certainly had the opportunity to reverse engineer from S4.

My design is quite good I think. I have over-designed to hide the simplicity of the unit but also to enable running with blower off while still maintaining original throttle response. The design would allow considerable boost from throttle opening - extracted 7.5 psi from the Volumex blower.
If I had the money and facilities I would have prototype running by now but my facilities are a column drill, a dremel and a few hammers. crazy

Also this engine has been mapped by Leighton and I don`t want to cloud9 with it as it is perfect - pussycat or hellcat, the power delivery is a bit violent but I think I will find that the variator is not functioning and the timing may have been set wrong to compensate.
I don`t know much about this engine as yet, but when I smell a rat it usually means there is a rat.

To get the best from my system will require a lot of fine tuning and I think i`ll need aftermarket ecu that I can map with a laptop - Brizzle is 200 miles away.

Thank-you for your input - goes off to find the Marea.
Jon

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1512413
21/10/2014 08:55
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I see what your saying the blown NA versus the twin charge set up, the idea sounds great and I'm glad people are doing stuff like this.
When people suggest a new way of doing things they mostly get jumped on for thinking too far out of the box.

The twin turbo thread on here is a great project. If the guy had not done it before suggesting it he may well have not built it from being shot down.

I do enjoy reading your updates as it pushes me to get on with my own.

Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1512990
25/10/2014 09:43
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Yes, I can just imagine the "no shit sherlock" comments.

If I blow up an engine i`ll be the first to say "you cloud9 idiot Jon", we can then all have a good laugh at my expense. laugh

Folks will have a long wait though, i`m trying to get stuff done at the back of car and bashed my right arm, hand and fingers so many times yesterday I had to stop as had gone dead. No money either, actually did scrap run yesterday and was amazed at the value of copper - no wonder there are so many thefts of metals.

Re: LE 30 Project Thread [Re: ] #1513253
27/10/2014 18:08
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I wish you the best of luck with your treatment Jon keep your chin up and think positive

Re: LE 30 Project Thread [Re: ] #1513255
27/10/2014 18:14
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Stick around on here Jon, it's a fair haven for many and a source of light relief at times smile

Your banter and expertise on various subjects are always worth a read smile

Become the forum's competition setter?


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Re: LE 30 Project Thread [Re: ] #1513285
27/10/2014 21:58
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You mean like the dog? laugh

smile Thank-you for your thoughts etc.

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Re: LE 30 Discussion Thread [Re: ] #1513540
29/10/2014 11:58
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The good news is that at this time i`m told not to worry about the MRI results!

The less good news is that they want to use the Iodine treatment to kill off my Thyroid to an extent. I am a bit concerned about this. I really don`t do being in hospital.

I have had 2 surgical procedures.
1 - micro-surgery on a severed vein in my thumb, without anaesthetic. Six people held me down.
2 - some teeth out. I had been listening to the surgeon explain to the previous patient about being sorry about the snapped drill, we have x-rayed your chest etc. before being wheeled in.

Re: LE 30 Project Thread [Re: ] #1513919
31/10/2014 19:08
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Originally Posted By: KBT


Begbie is too good at getting my references, or my clues are rubbish so i`m hiding them better I hope with a wink(s) at the end of a post containing ref/refs.


Yes Begbie seems to be on track most of the time tongue

Last edited by Edinburgh; 01/11/2014 01:25. Reason: sorry forgot, no comments!

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Re: LE 30 Project Thread [Re: ] #1513965
01/11/2014 01:16
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an amazing story so far...

makes me think I'm not making an effort!

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