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Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496737
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Cayman considered a few times but didnt like the size but is still at back of my mind.
Jag I looked at but maybe didnt look at enough.
Maserati out as I can only imagine the servicing is horrendous.
Audi isnt an option as too similar to m3 fuel consumption I think.

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496751
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Remapped 3.0 v6 S4? Autocar have a good video of one before and after remap vs an RS4 IF you're not sure on the grunt.


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Originally Posted By: Trappy
Remapped 3.0 v6 S4? Autocar have a good video of one before and after remap vs an RS4 IF you're not sure on the grunt.


Aren't they just as thirsty in real-life use (rather than the EU fuel economy joke) as the 4.2 V8 they replaced?

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496786
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I think to get a car as quick as the M3 but with better fuel economy, it's going to be a turbo of some sort.

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Originally Posted By: TimR
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Remapped 3.0 v6 S4? Autocar have a good video of one before and after remap vs an RS4 IF you're not sure on the grunt.


Aren't they just as thirsty in real-life use (rather than the EU fuel economy joke) as the 4.2 V8 they replaced?


Honestly, I have no idea but it's got to be cheaper to run?

To ask for a car to be as fast, as big and cheaper to run is a big ask. Forced induction and smaller capacity all other things being equal is the only way as has been said above.


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Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496791
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The other alternative, would be to buy some thing older with a massive engine (therefore cheaper) and spend the money you've saved on fuel.... and just accept the mpg will be crAp.

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496852
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I still think a Focus RS500 is your answer, most are 400 horse, 30 mpg combined and they don't really depreciate. What's not to like? Unless you don't like the blue oval...

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Originally Posted By: TimR
Originally Posted By: Trappy
Remapped 3.0 v6 S4? Autocar have a good video of one before and after remap vs an RS4 IF you're not sure on the grunt.


Aren't they just as thirsty in real-life use (rather than the EU fuel economy joke) as the 4.2 V8 they replaced?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KfMY96v_Gc

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Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: ] #1496890
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Originally Posted By: Big_Muzzie
I still think a Focus RS500 is your answer, most are 400 horse, 30 mpg combined and they don't really depreciate. What's not to like? Unless you don't like the blue oval...


Funny. I was thinking of the Focus too but thought it might be a bit of a "departure" from a Beemer.

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496893
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Audi s4 supercharged is a real contender guys. Good shout that man. Been researching since you posted. Rs500 next.

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496896
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Rs500 is way too much to purchase...34k at best!

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: DanTheManc] #1496910
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Originally Posted By: DanTheManc
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Again another suggestion I looked into but put off by similar running costs and less build quality.
I looked at the 335i m sport for a long time and was my preference but like you said not as good looking and even though they can be made to be quick...not quite as quick as the m3 and certainly not as involving to drive. Vx220 is far too small.


A modestly tuned 335i is quicker than an M3. A moderate/highly tuned 335i will wipe the floor with an M3. An M3 will handle better though.

You can get RB turbos for £2000 for the 335i if you want brutal performance. It will beat 99.9% of cars your likely to come up against on the road. Type "RB turbo 335i" into youtube.

RB turbo'd 335i vs Tuned E90 M3
RB turbo'd 335i Vs 2014 GTR



No LSD though...... frown

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Gripped] #1496969
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I still think a Focus RS500 is your answer, most are 400 horse, 30 mpg combined and they don't really depreciate. What's not to like? Unless you don't like the blue oval...


Funny. I was thinking of the Focus too but thought it might be a bit of a "departure" from a Beemer.


I went from a 330 CI to a coupe - the differences between German Luxo brands and the likes of Ford and Vauxhall are not what they used to be.

They are still £34k?!?!? That's list price! Wish I had a spare £34k as it would be invested in that direction.

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: ] #1496971
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Originally Posted By: Liquid
Again another suggestion I looked into but put off by similar running costs and less build quality.
I looked at the 335i m sport for a long time and was my preference but like you said not as good looking and even though they can be made to be quick...not quite as quick as the m3 and certainly not as involving to drive. Vx220 is far too small.


A modestly tuned 335i is quicker than an M3. A moderate/highly tuned 335i will wipe the floor with an M3. An M3 will handle better though.

You can get RB turbos for £2000 for the 335i if you want brutal performance. It will beat 99.9% of cars your likely to come up against on the road. Type "RB turbo 335i" into youtube.

RB turbo'd 335i vs Tuned E90 M3
RB turbo'd 335i Vs 2014 GTR



No LSD though...... frown


LSD isn't standard but you can add an LSD.


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Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1496998
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What about normal Focus RS - they're around £20k.

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: ] #1497025
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It was a contender but the fact its a focus swayed me to bmw but the rs500 is just too beastly to ignore and I remmeber why I did rule it out eventually...veryyy pricey.

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1497029
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I have found you the perfect car!! dont know how i missed this

Good on fuel versatile etc. etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFdBcYN3sNw

When you get one, be good if you could write up a reveiw

Cheers Rich

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1497045
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Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1497046
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Best suggestion so far is the audi a4 supercharged though I prefer the s5 but its out of budget currently...

Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1498723
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Remapped S4 3.0 Supercharged

http://youtu.be/2KfMY96v_Gc


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Re: Alternative to E92 M3 [Re: Liquid] #1498962
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Thats already been posted Dan. Good video smile

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