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whats best standard or modified? #1505027
27/08/2014 21:47
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Well after taking most of the modified stuff of my car eg exhaust,cone filter,dump valve then taking my car for a good drive I must admit I prefer the standard car rather than modified.I have modified/improved cars all my life but must admit I thought I would never say this but my preference is standard.

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505040
27/08/2014 22:11
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Yes I agree, for the road I do like the standard suspension with a maybe stage two/three hybrid setup for that little extra push in the back.
Track is track so loads of Powa and appropriate upgrades with suspension, brakes etc for some real fun driving

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505043
27/08/2014 22:12
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For everyday driving, especially in traffic I to much prefer my standard coupe to my modded 360hp coupe, jst the organic racing clutch is enuf to put me off taking her out when I knw their wil be traffic!! Which is 90% of the bloody time these days but for pure out fun you jst cnt beat the rush when 360bhp of burble kicks in laugh!!!
So thats why you need 2 coupes!!! Lol

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505044
27/08/2014 22:14
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modified laugh

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505045
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Originally Posted By: nismo
modified laugh


...... and blue wink

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505046
27/08/2014 22:20
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laugh

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: Gripped] #1505047
27/08/2014 22:21
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Modified, my 350bhp Sprint blue Coupe is just fine in traffic, and then blowing it away laugh


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: Gripped] #1505052
27/08/2014 22:27
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at heart it'd be modified, i mean who wouldnt want a coupe at 300+ Bhp ? but every day driving, a standard coupe(engine wise) is perfectly fine, a simple remap is enough for me, a little bit more power on tap but in a standard coupe.


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505060
27/08/2014 22:37
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Is it just me that thinks 220bhp is more than enough it is still a very fast car.I bought a gtec chip from Graham but never fitted it as I thought the car was quick enough.Maybe with me approaching 40 I am getting to old for these 300+ bhp coupes. I would far rather spend the money making my coupe mint than spend the money on 300+ bhp mods.I still think a standard car is nicer to drive

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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505063
27/08/2014 22:56
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I like my Scottie standard.

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505093
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16NA modified with a flea chip.


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505153
28/08/2014 15:07
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Standard suspension and wheels, crazy engine :-).


362bhp of warble

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505190
28/08/2014 19:38
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laugh

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505193
28/08/2014 19:49
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One of each!



Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505194
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Standard modified themselves into triumph and sadly that did not work either....


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505199
28/08/2014 20:02
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Originally Posted By: baz4205
Well after taking most of the modified stuff of my car eg exhaust,cone filter,dump valve then taking my car for a good drive I must admit I prefer the standard car rather than modified.I have modified/improved cars all my life but must admit I thought I would never say this but my preference is standard.


You haven't mentioned suspension here so no need to go into how bad standard suspension is on these things... With 40k miles on the clock when I bought it, it used to wallow and flop over around corners. It's terrible and wouldn't be acceptable on a modern equivalent.

As for engine / power, none of the modifications you've mentioned will make any difference. I'm confused?

I think that, like all cars, Coupés can be modified badly and made worse to drive. I like to think you can modernise a Coupé with some careful choices and not lose any of the best bits of a standard car. Granted, it won't be a smooth GT anymore - more like one of the latest hot hatches, but it needn't be horrible to drive.

I love how much more feel I get from my car now. It's so much more visceral and pointy without being horrible on a long journey, and it will only get better when I carry on modernising it with new seats and a new suspension set-up next year.


F****** b****** thing...
Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505219
28/08/2014 21:39
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There's no right answer, a purist says factory a racer wants an extreme, most are in the middle somewhere.

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505231
28/08/2014 22:32
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For me the only downsides to modified would be the on/off clutch - which you don`t notice if you don`t drive anything else, and badly modded suspension.

I will have some more pictures of this in 48 hours, just need to get it dug in.

Read MODIFIED x 1000 tongue

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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505234
28/08/2014 22:38
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That's a sweeeeet shot! Looks a little bit cossie!

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505235
28/08/2014 22:42
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Tis very, from V8. More pictures in 15 minutes - decided to spill the beans.

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505243
28/08/2014 22:57
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Well I was lucky to get this stuff and that it has worked so sweetly, I may try some further mods to bed it right in but the bonnet closes, as it also clears the expansion tank when mounted on the nearside.
Titanium studs from Lotus F1 (I think), cfc heat shields from various F1 cars (there is another not shown yet) and the cover is from Cosworth V8 XD.
On the next car I build i`ll try to source V10 bits as I have discovered that the mil. spec. connectors don`t really cater for 5 or 10 cylinder engines!
Enjoy.
click to enlarge
The cable in the scuttle will vanish.

click to enlarge click to enlarge click to enlarge

Happy modding.
(I am so seriously chuffed with this, oh my god)


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505278
29/08/2014 07:37
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Just one thing to note, KBT - those mil-spec connectors are only rated for *50* insertions or removals. They tend to work long after, but that's their rating...

I trust you have had an eye as to the current rating of the pins?

(I've used them for years, first in broadcasting and then in the oil industry.)


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505336
29/08/2014 15:39
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Looks great that engine

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505351
29/08/2014 17:34
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Thank-you for your comments, another cover like this has come on the market today as it happens!

I didn`t know they were rated so low, no. The sureseal connectors which I quite like have the same rating and I believe one type on the car is rated at 20 only. In comparison to those dreadful blue, red or yellow crimp connectors?

For the coil packs i`m planning on giving the circuit for 5 cylinders 40 amps by using a 12 pin hi-amp having used 2 of the 20 amp pins for live and 2 for earth, the injector setup is giving me a headache though. I can`t test running currents as I have a slight engine trouble so i`m doing component research and maths.

I`m doing the widget too:- M3 x 35mm titanium tapered dome screws(matches the dash - ish), cover for the back, custom to the board and als range connector to the loom. coat

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505362
29/08/2014 19:36
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Sounds like you've done the research.

For info, the connectors similar to the widget connector on the loom are AMP/Tyco parts.


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505396
30/08/2014 00:37
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If only I had the time....


362bhp of warble

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: stevo] #1505399
30/08/2014 01:15
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Originally Posted By: stevo
If only I had the time....

Originally Posted By: Pondman
If only I had the knowledge and the time.....


Very nice KBT smile

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: ] #1505419
30/08/2014 10:12
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I don't get why everyone moans about the clutch on modified coupes. My standard coupes clutch was really heavy from 56k all the way to 110k when I sold it. My 420bhp coupes clutch is feather light and has a really nice short travel. It's the best bit!

It's also much better than my Alfa GT clutch which is still heavy and notchy even after being replaced at only 30k!

Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: Dan] #1505420
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What clutch have you got Dan ?


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Re: whats best standard or modified? [Re: MCMike] #1505424
30/08/2014 11:01
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Originally Posted By: MCMike
What clutch have you got Dan ?


That's a good question. It's supposed to be a helix organic, but I suspect it's some kind of barbz hybrid. I hope it lasts.

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