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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: Edinburgh] #1542255
20/06/2015 15:53
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Originally Posted By: magooagain
Are they not new/different owners now Marko?
Wasn't aware that the track owners had changed Joe !
Can only ask again I suppose.

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@ Mark - worth a punt, and if you can get a reply I want to know the secret laugh

@Simon
It's DGS, the SpaItalia "organisers" who are almost impossible to contact or get replies from.

The Public Driving days are organised by the Spa-Francorchamps Circuit owners who I had no trouble contacting last time.


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542262
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Im losing patience with the whole thing tbh. Ive been trying to get a reply from SpaItalia or DG Sports for a month and i cant get a thing out of them. Why the hell would i want to give them any money if they cant be bothered to give me any response. My worry is if we pay and then the thing goes under because of lack of partipation then no one will have any recourse to get any money back as you cant speak to anyone. If i cancel my ferries within two months i only lose 15% too but that rises the close i get to the date.


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: sebasteeno] #1542265
20/06/2015 17:45
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Originally Posted By: sebasteeno
Im losing patience with the whole thing tbh. Ive been trying to get a reply from SpaItalia or DG Sports for a month and i cant get a thing out of them. Why the hell would i want to give them any money if they cant be bothered to give me any response. My worry is if we pay and then the thing goes under because of lack of partipation then no one will have any recourse to get any money back as you cant speak to anyone. If i cancel my ferries within two months i only lose 15% too but that rises the close i get to the date.


All the more credit to the person that's been organising this over the years.

Agree with your sentiments - maybe see what Lego can conjure up?


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: sebasteeno] #1542269
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Originally Posted By: sebasteeno
Im losing patience with the whole thing tbh. Ive been trying to get a reply from SpaItalia or DG Sports for a month and i cant get a thing out of them. Why the hell would i want to give them any money if they cant be bothered to give me any response. My worry is if we pay and then the thing goes under because of lack of partipation then no one will have any recourse to get any money back as you cant speak to anyone. If i cancel my ferries within two months i only lose 15% too but that rises the close i get to the date.



Pretty much how I feel about it Sebasteeno, as they never bothered acknowleging any of my questions, and it has been extremely difficult for Pete on behalf of the club (booking 40 plus cars last year) to get info out of them since they took over SpaItalia last year. I really don't want to give such a company my money either, especially since they hiked the prices, reduced the track time and totally censored-up the Parade Sessions last year.

Maybe it's time for the club to move on next year 2016 and to consider having an annual meet at another Track like Zandvoort or Magny Cours as Gimmo mentioned.

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542270
20/06/2015 18:38
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I love spa but maybe it is time for a change frown

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542276
20/06/2015 19:44
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The Dutch guys have a great day at Assen, Rene organises it and it pulls a massive mix of Italian cars.

They also have track time that's run very similar to Spa Italia so maybe it's time as Iain says to look else where.

https://www.facebook.com/vivaitalia.nl?fref=ts

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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542277
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My only thought about Assen is that it is just a one day event and it's actually further from the channel ports than Spa: 450 km versus 309km from Dunkirk.


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542278
20/06/2015 19:50
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Feeling have been shown. Is there any other track day events available around that date as i believe there is still a number of people who would like to attend an event this year.


Huge shame.

The event was so far away from original spa weekends last year i suppose this as to happen.

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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542280
20/06/2015 19:52
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Pete there's nothing to stop us organising a day trip somewhere ourselves to make it a weekend, I'm sure the Dutch guys would join in if not organise something for us all.

As for distance, well yes it's further but it's a group road trip so most would be up for it I'd imagine.

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542281
20/06/2015 19:57
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Are the other clubs carrying out track days?


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542282
20/06/2015 20:01
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Looking at delta racing as an instance have Loheac open pit for the whole day for £180.

I know further and one day but the same weekend and interesting folk.


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542284
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Originally Posted By: PeteP
My only thought about Assen is that it is just a one day event and it's actually further from the channel ports than Spa: 450 km versus 309km from Dunkirk.


Yes Pete.

Spa is about our limit as it is a minimum 5 day trip for us. It is a round trip of 1500 miles or 2,414km from Edinburgh and necessitates an extra nights stopover each way or overnight car ferry starting on the Thursday Afternoon. I wouldn't want to drive all the way again. Last year going by overnight ferry meant around a 3 hour drive to Newcastle, and around the same from Amsterdam to Spa. Infinitely less tiring but adds around a whopping £300 to the cost. So for Simon and I, and others further North - something closer to Amsterdam or the Ports would be much more dooable and agreeable for us.

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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542285
20/06/2015 21:23
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That ferry cost is high, I got caught for £140 Belfast to Liverpool last year and it hurt.

It looks like it is about a 2 hour drive from Amsterdam.


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542287
20/06/2015 21:33
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Thxx fot the credits Joe, i am organise it for the 6 year now, not the event itself but everything for the Coupé,s , we have the last 3 years also a group from Germany to come over.
we had this year two runs on the track about a half hour each, kosts about 40 euro per run, entrance 14.50 euro , paddock tickets for the Coupé,s free
Yes i know its a long trip for just a one day event.
But if you want i can show you Assen the day and evening before , play a game of twister ore somthing else. So if you want to come over for Viva Italia next year youre most welcome, sleeping accomodations enhough, if there is interesse from you i can check out a few , and post it here , but first i have to wait for the new date , greetings René

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542295
20/06/2015 22:03
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Originally Posted By: PeteP
That ferry cost is high, I got caught for £140 Belfast to Liverpool last year and it hurt.

It looks like it is about a 2 hour drive from Amsterdam.



Yes it is high but for a decent quiet cabin without engine noise and not counting dinner, breakfast and refreshments on the 15-16 hour journey it's £250. £140 for the car alone.
Assen is definitely agreeable at 2 hours from the ferry port. thumb

Zandvoort would be perfect at 26 mins smile I love that track.




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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542299
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The racing track in Zandvoort is awsome, but the acommodation sucks, verry old , at the racingtrack in Assen the acommodations are much better, and if i may say so the track not to bad smile ,this year the paddock places and the track time in Zandvoort taken place at 28 of june shrunk because of the F1 Toro rosso,s are doing demo,s.
i couldnt get paddock places frown

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542303
20/06/2015 22:52
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I'm liking the sound of Assen smile

No chance of a track day this autumn?


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542791
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Wanted to pay for SpaItalia today but I see its cancelled?! I was really looking forward to this.... hopefully in the near future.

Even though its cancelled, thanks to every one who invested time and effort into this event!

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: ] #1542862
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I share your disappointment Turboman87.
I had paid the deposit but had it refunded last weekend, as presumably things came to ahead. cry
Just as Joe had told me the Coupe was up to making the journey and blasting around Spa blush


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1542875
25/06/2015 23:54
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Such a disappointment. The only thing is we should really find an alternative. Good track, nice people, mostly Coupe's,... would be wonderful.

I'm probably going to try and go to the magoo's some time and join them on the track.


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: Kayjey] #1543594
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Maybe Zolder could reserve a Coupé only track day session?

I took my old Quattro around there in the 80's and found it a fantastic circuit, though it does seem to have changed a bit. OK it's no Spa but they may be more open to ideas than the F1 circuit.


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Sorry to read this guys, in all my years of owning a coupe this was the hallmark event and anyone who could have gone but didn't - i pity you rolleyes

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1544117
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how about Brands Hatch? nice and local to me! haha

on a serious note, pretty bummed about Spa Italia, was looking to go this year or next!

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1544256
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We all calmed down on the 155 forum and are still going ahead with our trip so there will be five UK Alfa 155s going.

Now dont all faint but DG Sports even replied to an email today!!!! - I know, i nearly fainted too lol

Ive discovered that theyve also been doing the bikers' classic event (last weekend) there which was hugely popular so they may have been a bit pre occupied - probably not it just seems taht maybe theyre just a bit useless lol https://www.facebook.com/bikersclassics?fref=ts


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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1544258
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Also i had a chat with a uk guy who went to the Bikers Classic weekend last weekend at Spa - he said this -
Hi Seb, send a message to you with an email you can try. They seem to be quite small, so have problems responding to mails sometimes. You could try phoning them though - they all seem to speak seven languages ;-)The sign-in is always rather oddly organised, but once in, the track people are rather good. Every year I find myself asking why am I here, when waiting for my entry stickers, but the question gets answered when you go on the track.


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Such a shame.
Long gone are the days of big coupe meets at spa

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Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: coupedummy] #1547126
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I'm glad I got to go 3 times, twice with proccy and once in my own car cool
Experiences never to be forgotten and that's probably the last video/photo ever taken with me smoking a fag shocked smile

Re: SpaItalia 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1547132
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Nice video Reuben good to be reminded of familiar faces. I went to every SpaItalia from 2007 to 2014.

In 2007 I was the only Brit among about 20 coupes in all. Our contingent was 4 or 5 the next year then from 2010 it started to snowball with people from all over Europe as well as the French lads.

The maximum number of participants with the club was 56 in 2012 as I recall it.

A shame it went too far towards the over-privileged end of the market under DG Sports.


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I recall you saying last year Pete that the costs were becoming an issue. Am sad for those guys and girls who have been looking forward to this year and missing out on what was a good couple of days with a great bunch of club members.
I hope another option turns up smile


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