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Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: Begbie] #1545044 20/07/2015 18:28 20/07/2015 18:28
N nismo Unregistered
nismo Unregistered N	i'm successful on the entry , so did anyone else get in ? Originally Posted By: W&W Dear fellow motoring enthusiast. Many thanks for your application to run your vehicle on the Wings & Wheels Motoring Demonstration at Dunsfold Aerodrome this year. The response from people this year has been enormous, with over 420 applications received for both days. These applications have now been reviewed, and in line with the Dunsfold Wings & Wheels team’s wish to provide a “crowd pleasing spectacle” we have made our selection from the line-up of vehicles offered to us. Due to the limited number of places on offer, we have been unable to accept everyone, and have tried to put together a good cross-section of vehicles of different makes and ages. I am pleased to let you know that your application has been one of those that has been accepted for the weekend. Your tickets and passes will be sent out from week commencing Monday 27th July by the team at Dunsfold, so you should have them in good time for the weekend. If your passes do not arrive by the 15th August, please let us know so we can deal with the problem. If you find that you are unable to attend, please let me know. If you have received your tickets, would you also please send those back to me. We all look forward to seeing you at Dunsfold, for another exciting 2 days of motoring and air displays.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545048 20/07/2015 18:42 20/07/2015 18:42
P Pondman Unregistered
Pondman Unregistered P	Hmmm, it will be interesting to see who has and has not been accepted. Please amend the listing if you have been accepted. Motoring Demonstration: 1) PeteP - both days - Coupe + Fiat X1/9 - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 2) Sharman - Sunday 3) Pondman - both days - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 4) Nismo - both days - email received - ACCEPTED 5) Thunderbox - Sunday - email received 6) Cooperman - Sunday - email received 7) Begbie - Sunday - Applied - NOT ACCEPTED 8) Hovedan - Sunday - Applied Wheels Zone & Parade: 1) Mark3009 - Sunday- Email received 2) 3)

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545050 20/07/2015 18:50 20/07/2015 18:50
P Pondman Unregistered
Pondman Unregistered P	Thanks Alexis

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545063 20/07/2015 20:27 20/07/2015 20:27
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 221 norwich sharman Making a profit
sharman Making a profit Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 221 norwich	Motoring Demonstration: 1) PeteP - both days - Coupe + Fiat X1/9 - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 2) Sharman - Sunday NOT ACCEPTED 3) Pondman - both days - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 4) Nismo - both days - email received - ACCEPTED 5) Thunderbox - Sunday - email received 6) Cooperman - Sunday - email received 7) Begbie - Sunday - Applied - NOT ACCEPTED 8) Hovedan - Sunday - Applied Wheels Zone & Parade: 1) Mark3009 - Sunday- Email received

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545066 20/07/2015 20:54 20/07/2015 20:54
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary
Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary My job on the forum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East	Got the same email so does that mean none of us were successful? Would love to know what the selection process was? Waste of time bothering it seems even after all the buggeration last year.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545068 20/07/2015 21:02 20/07/2015 21:02
N nismo Unregistered
nismo Unregistered N	only one car accepted so far Cooperman . Motoring Demonstration: 1) PeteP - both days - Coupe + Fiat X1/9 - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 2) Sharman - Sunday - NOT ACCEPTED 3) Pondman - both days - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 4) Nismo - both days - email received - ACCEPTED 5) Thunderbox - Sunday - email received 6) Cooperman - Sunday - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 7) Begbie - Sunday - Applied - NOT ACCEPTED 8) Hovedan - Sunday - Applied Wheels Zone & Parade: 1) Mark3009 - Sunday- Email received

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545069 20/07/2015 21:13 20/07/2015 21:13
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary
Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary My job on the forum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East	Really feel we have been let down again and emailed back to that effect. Not sure I would support them at Auto Italia next year, why bother?

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545074 20/07/2015 21:43 20/07/2015 21:43
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 221 norwich sharman Making a profit
sharman Making a profit Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 221 norwich	A little quote from their apology letter last year. "Our sincerest apologies for this late development, rest assured that steps will be taken to prevent a recurrence for the 2015 event and that details of those who have been affected by this will be noted so they can be given suitable priority treatment for next years event." I can't complain really as I was lucky enough to get on the runway in my Alfa last year but I can imagine how cheesed off you are cooperman,

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545087 21/07/2015 00:29 21/07/2015 00:29
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary
Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary My job on the forum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East	A rather hollow apology with the benefit of hindsight. Never mind, I am looking forward to the Honnington fair event

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545088 21/07/2015 00:37 21/07/2015 00:37
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot	I will speak to Emily Hooton, as I did last year, to see what can be salvaged from the wreckage for those who would still like to attend. 16VT and X1/9 1500 We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545090 21/07/2015 00:44 21/07/2015 00:44
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,192 Bristol, UK H Hovedan Forum is my life
Hovedan Forum is my life H Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,192 Bristol, UK	No joy from my end either, despite what I thought to be a well worded application and supported by several pics and actual video of the growl of my 20vt on a track day. Agree with the snobbery comment Pete. Be interesting if you get any response to your succinct reply! Motoring Demonstration: 1) PeteP - both days - Coupe + Fiat X1/9 - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 2) Sharman - Sunday - NOT ACCEPTED 3) Pondman - both days - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 4) Nismo - both days - email received - ACCEPTED 5) Thunderbox - Sunday - email received 6) Cooperman - Sunday - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 7) Begbie - Sunday - Applied - NOT ACCEPTED 8) Hovedan - Sunday - Applied - NOT ACCEPTED Wheels Zone & Parade: 1) Mark3009 - Sunday- Email received Currently tracking Renault 182

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545098 21/07/2015 08:42 21/07/2015 08:42
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 537 Worthing Thunderbox Club member 852
Thunderbox Club member 852 Enjoying the ride Joined: May 2008 Posts: 537 Worthing	Did people receive an email or letter letting them know if they had been accepted ( or not!)? I have yet to receive anything! I expect that I will also not have been accepted, disappointing if it's true but that's life- Brooklands has clearly always has its favourites; and are gereatric in their organisation. 352bhp+317ftlb/1310Kg=Joy!

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545106 21/07/2015 10:05 21/07/2015 10:05
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst Begbie Ex El Presidente
Begbie Ex El Presidente I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst	Chris, it was an email that we got. Maybe check your spam folder Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545107 21/07/2015 10:24 21/07/2015 10:24
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 537 Worthing Thunderbox Club member 852
Thunderbox Club member 852 Enjoying the ride Joined: May 2008 Posts: 537 Worthing	Update: After my last post I thought I would email them as I hadn't heard ( I also didn't hear when I originally sent off the application- and emailed for conformation.) This is my reply:- "Chris, good morning. All the e-mails were sent out yesterday afternoon to the e-mail addresses we had on the original electronic applications. I can see now from checking yours that we did not have the 2 in the address, so I have amended it now. Your application was one of those that was accepted. The body of the message was as follows; Dear fellow motoring enthusiast. Many thanks for your application to run your vehicle on the Wings & Wheels Motoring Demonstration at Dunsfold Aerodrome this year. The response from people this year has been enormous, with over 420 applications received for both days. These applications have now been reviewed, and in line with the Dunsfold Wings & Wheels team’s wish to provide a “crowd pleasing spectacle” we have made our selection from the line-up of vehicles offered to us. Due to the limited number of places on offer, we have been unable to accept everyone, and have tried to put together a good cross-section of vehicles of different makes and ages. I am pleased to let you know that your application has been one of those that has been accepted for the weekend. Your tickets and passes will be sent out from week commencing Monday 27th July by the team at Dunsfold, so you should have them in good time for the weekend. If your passes do not arrive by the 15th August, please let us know so we can deal with the problem. If you find that you are unable to attend, please let me know. If you have received your tickets, would you also please send those back to me. We all look forward to seeing you at Dunsfold, for another exciting days motoring and air displays. Regards, Steve Castle." So I have been accepted. If I find I can't or don't want to go, and despite the advice in his email, I would happyily give the opportunity to one of the others. Nearer the time I will know and post accordingly. 352bhp+317ftlb/1310Kg=Joy!

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545108 21/07/2015 10:24 21/07/2015 10:24
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 537 Worthing Thunderbox Club member 852
Thunderbox Club member 852 Enjoying the ride Joined: May 2008 Posts: 537 Worthing	Motoring Demonstration: 1) PeteP - both days - Coupe + Fiat X1/9 - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 2) Sharman - Sunday - NOT ACCEPTED 3) Pondman - both days - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 4) Nismo - both days - email received - ACCEPTED 5) Thunderbox - Sunday - email received- ACCEPTED 6) Cooperman - Sunday - email received - NOT ACCEPTED 7) Begbie - Sunday - Applied - NOT ACCEPTED 8) Hovedan - Sunday - Applied - NOT ACCEPTED Wheels Zone & Parade: 1) Mark3009 - Sunday- Email received 352bhp+317ftlb/1310Kg=Joy!

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545153 21/07/2015 18:05 21/07/2015 18:05
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot	I have spoken to Emily Hooton about a Wheels zone space for the club. There are none left for Sunday and only 3 left for Saturday. I have asked her to keep one of those for us. Among other things I have mentioned the following in my email: Quote: There is a fundamental flaw in the way you and Brooklands Museum work together allocating spaces. You ask participants to choose whether they would like to take part in the static or moving parts of the motoring show 5 whole months before the participants for the Motoring demonstration have been chosen by some secret formula by a group whose primary interest seems to be looking after, let us say, the”more traditional “ old car owners and their vehicles. By delaying letting people know what the chosen few are this close to the event means that the two options effectively become mutually exclusive. I would hope that you collectively can learn some lessons from this and perhaps make changes which will leave clubs able to put on a proper show irrespective of the runway run status 16VT and X1/9 1500 We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545154 21/07/2015 18:26 21/07/2015 18:26
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary
Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary My job on the forum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East	Good try Pete, you have the patience of a saint as my dear old Mum would say hope a few get to show their Coupes on the Saturday.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: Cooperman] #1545162 21/07/2015 19:23 21/07/2015 19:23
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot	Originally Posted By: Cooperman Good try Pete, you have the patience of a saint as my dear old Mum would say Far from it Ashley, I'm inwardly seething. 16VT and X1/9 1500 We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: PeteP] #1545166 21/07/2015 20:33 21/07/2015 20:33
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary
Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary My job on the forum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East	I must admit I did send Steve Castle a rather terse email telling him how I felt the club had been treated very poorly particularly after the promises to give us priority following last years messing around. I doubt I will get a response though.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545176 21/07/2015 21:30 21/07/2015 21:30
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 221 norwich sharman Making a profit
sharman Making a profit Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 221 norwich	I vote we forget these guys, link up the countless other owners clubs, find a disused runway and put on our own event😁

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545180 21/07/2015 22:06 21/07/2015 22:06
P Pondman Unregistered
Pondman Unregistered P	So do we boycott the event? I feel very let down too Having organised/suggested inclusion to this event for many years now, I am upset by the way it has been run, but it has always been this way, so you just accept its short comings and move on. It has only really been a headache since we started to do the runway run via Brooklands Museum which seem to have piss poor organisational skills that it has become a major problem One of the reasons for starting the RR's was FREE inclusion to the event. I take umbrage being a static display for their event and having to pay nearly full price for the privilege! Let the discussion continue.............

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545189 21/07/2015 22:44 21/07/2015 22:44
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary
Cooperman Former Club Membership Secretary My job on the forum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,306 Kent, South East	Maybe we should put a bid in for Manston airport and set up our own track day company but seriously I think this company are just taking the money and giving not a lot in return. Club events should be inclusive and not exclusively for those with a certain badge on the grille which is likely what we all are thinking. Should we boycott it? Depends on your strength of feeling and whether you were able to make the Saturday which Pete says is the only day free for a club wheels zone pitch. I can't make the Saturday anyway so it's a yes for me:)

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545193 21/07/2015 23:01 21/07/2015 23:01
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot	My take on this is not so much that the runway run meant getting in free but that it provided a focus for us all to meet. Without that, the possibility of having a central parking and meeting point is the difference between Wings and Wheels and any other combined air and car show. The shame is that with their crappy system, by the time the chosen few are known, it is too late to do much about an alternative focal point. With today's inflated cost to do anything, £15 a person for a day out among your mates is better than a £28 bought at the gate price, when it is completely a matter of chance whether you can find anyone even by pre-arrangement. Bear in mind that, if you are into aircraft, this is about the last chance to see a Vulcan display here in the south. 16VT and X1/9 1500 We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545212 22/07/2015 08:52 22/07/2015 08:52
P Pondman Unregistered
Pondman Unregistered P	So, the 3 spaces available for Saturday they are Club spaces I presume? I am possibly swayed to go, just for the last chance to see the Vulcan one more time. And the fact that I'm only 20 minutes away. I don't want to cut my nose off to spite my face! But I doubt I will bother putting my name down again for the runway run until they have a transparent and organised and system for application.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545219 22/07/2015 10:07 22/07/2015 10:07
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot	Yes they are club spaces Ross, I have told them there could be up to 10 of us. As you say, there is no point in cutting your nose off to spite your face. The Vulcan swings it for me. 16VT and X1/9 1500 We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545227 22/07/2015 11:50 22/07/2015 11:50
P Pondman Unregistered
Pondman Unregistered P	Motoring Demonstration: 1) Nismo - Saturday/Sunday 2) Thunderbox - Sunday Wheels Zone & Parade: SATURDAY ONLY 1) Mark3009 - Sunday - Email received - Saturday? 2) Pondman - will attend, yet to apply

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545288 23/07/2015 13:21 23/07/2015 13:21
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
PeteP Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,520 Aldershot	I now have confirmation that we have a club stand on the SATURDAY, we have asked for 8 places. I'm told that we have a good spot too. Tickets are £15 adult or £5 for Children aged 5 to 15 and under 5s are free. Order your tickets here: https://www.wingsandwheels.net/shop/tickets/wheels-zone Where it asks for the club name enter Fiat Coupe Club UK. To save last minute panics whether tickets have been sent, it will help Emily, who is doing her best to make up for our disappointment, if you can place your orders by 31st July. Wheels Zone & Parade: SATURDAY ONLY 1) Mark3009 - Sunday - Email received - Saturday? 2) Pondman - will attend, yet to apply 3) PeteP - Stand booked and tickets ordered. 1 + Mrs P & James. Last edited by PeteP; 23/07/2015 13:34. 16VT and X1/9 1500 We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545302 23/07/2015 15:14 23/07/2015 15:14
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst Begbie Ex El Presidente
Begbie Ex El Presidente I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,295 Sandhurst	Good work Pete, but I think it will be a no from me as I'll be at Becky's niece's birthday during the day. Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545382 24/07/2015 19:11 24/07/2015 19:11
M Mark3009 Unregistered
Mark3009 Unregistered M	Can't make Saturday. Awaiting clarification about Sunday.

Re: Wings & Wheels, August 2015 [Re: ] #1545855 31/07/2015 00:49 31/07/2015 00:49
P Pondman Unregistered
Pondman Unregistered P	Motoring Demonstration: 1) Nismo - Saturday/Sunday 2) Thunderbox - Sunday Wheels Zone & Parade: SATURDAY ONLY 1) PeteP - Stand booked and tickets ordered. 1 + Mrs P & James. 2) Pondman - tickets ordered Mark3009 - Sunday?

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