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Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1625913
10/10/2018 21:32
10/10/2018 21:32
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You can't get the Bilstein B6s any more, but in any case I've just ditched mine because they simply stopped working after about 20,000 miles, and the ride became horribly crashy. I've gone back to standard springs and dampers.

Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1625944
11/10/2018 15:56
11/10/2018 15:56
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That's not good - on both fronts.

I found they were still advertising and thought they were still available.

http://www.bilstein-shop.com/fiat/fiat-c...jmnq6jriub99vp1

Back to the drawing board re my perception of the "crashiness" feeling and how to overcome it I guess!

Regards

Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1625946
11/10/2018 16:51
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You can get rears (and many other manufacturers still produce the rears) but it's the fronts where we don't have so much choice frown


1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus
1985½ & 2016 2017 Fiat 124 Spider + XF Sportbrake
Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1626423
28/10/2018 12:34
28/10/2018 12:34
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Hi,
where can I find a "Novitec 23mm rear anti-roll bar" (or another option for a rear ARB) for my 16V T?
thanks

Re: The best road handling setup [Re: JRibeiro] #1626484
29/10/2018 13:07
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Originally Posted By JRibeiro
Hi,
where can I find a "Novitec 23mm rear anti-roll bar" (or another option for a rear ARB) for my 16V T?
thanks
Ultra Racing.


Forged 20VT 2.4l head, BW EFR7163, Ecumaster EMU Black stand alone, P65, Bosch 625cc, TRE FMIC.
Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1626964
13/11/2018 19:10
13/11/2018 19:10
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Hi, I'm new to fiat coupes and have just purchased a 20vt last month. It's a fixer upper. I noticed the front drivers spring has broken and am looking to rent build front suspension. What are people's views on coilovers? Better than original set up or not?

Re: The best road handling setup [Re: Jhoney] #1626965
13/11/2018 19:26
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Originally Posted By Jhoney
Hi, I'm new to fiat coupes and have just purchased a 20vt last month. It's a fixer upper. I noticed the front drivers spring has broken and am looking to rent build front suspension. What are people's views on coilovers? Better than original set up or not?


Hi and welcome to the forum

Suspension is quite a personal thing - one man’s “too firm” is another man’s “sharp and precise”

A lot will depend on what you want to do with the car - if it’s going to be a pure road car, you should really consider brand new standard suspension

Coilovers vary a lot in quality - cheap coil overs are awful - stay clear.....


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Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1626975
13/11/2018 21:56
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Thanks very much, was leaning towards standard set up and you have helped confirm it. Much appreciated

Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1626979
14/11/2018 08:25
14/11/2018 08:25
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Good choice - a Coupe on fresh standard suspension is actually a very nice drive - controlled and compliant, without being too firm

Of course, if you're considering track days or you want to partake in a bit of "enthusiastic" driving, there are all sorts of mods you can make

Be careful though - its just as easy to make a Coupe handle worse than it is to make it handle better - ask me how I know.... rolleyes


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Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1626986
14/11/2018 13:01
14/11/2018 13:01
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I'm going to swap the suspension out on mine in the near future and I want to stay "standard". It's only a 20V.

By standard does that mean any decent standard dampers and springs or actually the FIAT supplied ones? Monroe and KYB seem to be easy to find damper options here.


1997 20V
2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR
2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD
2018 Mazda2 GT
Re: The best road handling setup [Re: ] #1626987
14/11/2018 13:20
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For "standard", read "OE-quality"

Its more about standard spring rates, standard damping and standard ride height

Monroe or similar would be fine


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Re: The best road handling setup [Re: Nigel] #1626991
14/11/2018 14:50
14/11/2018 14:50
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Originally Posted By Nigel
For "standard", read "OE-quality"

Its more about standard spring rates, standard damping and standard ride height

Monroe or similar would be fine


Thank you!


1997 20V
2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR
2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD
2018 Mazda2 GT
Re: The best road handling setup [Re: neil_r] #1638351
17/01/2020 16:08
17/01/2020 16:08
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Hi all! I'm a relative newbie to this site but i'm really appreciative of the wealth of knowledge you provide here. It really helped when I was troubleshooting for my 16vt. I now have a 20vt too and would like to tweak the handling for a slightly sharper road experience. I've taken on board a lot of the advice and was going to buy some Eibach springs and upgrade the rear ARB and buy the Bilstein B6's but see they are no longer sold for the front.
My question is therefore is there something comparable for the fronts? If not, I'm guessing the ride would suffer from having different brands at the front to the back so ideally they should be same brand all round? Not sure if anyone has experience of upgrading purely the rear or splitting brands front to rear. Any feedback welcome! Thanks in advance

Re: The best road handling setup [Re: coupedummy] #1643105
03/08/2020 23:08
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Originally Posted by coupedummy
I have had a bilsteins and eibach lowering and found it too harsh on uk roads


Totally agree!

So glad I went back to standard shocks and springs on my road car.

DS


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