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Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1224502
07/06/2011 18:09
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Loooong time since I posted, sorry guys!

Quick question, do people fit the 16" 20vT wheels to the 16vT often?

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1226348
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Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1226449
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Can you do the 16VT kit with 305mm rotors? And will they fit with 20VT wheels?

Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1226508
12/06/2011 22:44
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I was sure I'd posted here about the new kit that does just this? Strange. Anway (16vT hub, 20vT 305mm disc, 20vT alloy, WMS T30x caliper):

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This is the first/prototype kit, I'd just like to apologise to Piero for the time it took to develop and ship - sorry!!! frown

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Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1227214
14/06/2011 20:34
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how much is this kit for the 16vt?ill be looking at options this year.thanks

Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1227734
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No problem Keri!!

Guys hi have to say that the quality is fantastic, i still haven't tried them out but im going to the circuit this weekend so ill be able to tell you guys the overall of the kit.

Its very easy to fit no problems att all and no mess.

I have to thank Keri for his good work and for finishing to help me out with some bits.

Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1227806
16/06/2011 17:50
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crgracing:
Glad to hear things are going well, first/one-off kits are always a bit more work than "production" ones! :-)

GS_Racing:
The 305mm T30x (larger) caliper kit is in the region of £650+vat (plus pads and lines).

The 300mm T20 (smaller) caliper kit is £438.89+vat by comparison (plus pads and lines).

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Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1228152
17/06/2011 15:46
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5mm has never costed so much!

Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1228157
17/06/2011 15:58
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Ah, it's the caliper that makes the difference!

The T30x is a beast of a caliper, with a "mono-bridge" design. This makes it lot stiffer (see the triangulated bolts), but adds cost due to the extra machining. And it's bigger!

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Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1228179
17/06/2011 16:52
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Scuderia I can guaranty that the calipper is enormous.
I first tought it wouldn't fit .

Keri if you have a chance ive sent you a pm , chek it out please.

Regards.

Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1228190
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Here are some pics so that you guys can see what it looks like and how well made they are. Ill be back on tuesday to give my opinion on the brakes, this time on track!!

http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz62/piero134/?action=view&current=IMG00055-20110615-1107.jpg

Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1228202
17/06/2011 17:49
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I actually got a video from another guy at Spa today (also running 300mm WMS but on a Mk2 Punto HGT).

Great looking track, I want to have a go!

http://www.youtube.com/user/sh0Oks?feature=mhee#p/u/0/r8hI8os_cUE < Spot the Coupe at 9:12!

Re: 16vt upgrade brake kit on PSC [Re: ] #1229140
20/06/2011 14:43
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Well well!!! what a day a ther track!! i have to admit that brakes are better than i thought , the biggest problem is that i didn't have a camera to film it but i promise next time there will be.

Well what can i say about this kit ( i can't compare with brembos as ive never used them) the braking is very clean and it dosen't block the wheels instantly. I like the feel of the pedal as its not soft but either very hard unless you put your foot down a bit. The feeling through corners is great as is give just what you need to brake the car, as on standards if you brake to much it eventually blocks.
The diference with standard are enormous.

I just didn't expect it to perform as well as it does.

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1229151
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16vT guys I now its cash, but its worth it!!
as for you 20vT like a sayed before I can't compare it to the brembos as I haven`t used them.

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Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1229281
20/06/2011 19:34
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Good to hear they are working well - thanks for the feedback! :-)

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1249907
16/08/2011 22:30
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Anybody got any details for contacting Keri other than a PM?

I can't send him a PM on PSC cos I've not got 50 posts and I don't have that much to say about Puntos!!

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1250046
17/08/2011 10:11
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YOu can contact him through the fiat punto forum to!

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1250133
17/08/2011 14:05
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Oops, not been online for a few days, sorry about that! PM on the way in a sec... :-)

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1250148
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No worries smile I'll keep an eye on my inbox!!

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1336042
19/04/2012 10:22
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for the 305mm kit with the T30x caliper, could someone supply the dimensions or type of pads I will be needing? I have to know I can buy the pads here also.

With the disc, I think that there is no issue. I can just swap it with a 305mm disc and I should be fine, right?

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1336341
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Could this be the cure for brembo squeel ...replace calipers on a 20vt.


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Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1336452
20/04/2012 15:04
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The 305mm kit just uses the Coupe 20vT disc, so they are easy to get.

The pads are a common motorsport format - available from most manufacturers (its not just WMS that uses them).

As for squeel....I wouldn't like to say. That's down to a lot of factors, like pad coef-friction, disc shape....you might or might not get squeel with WMS calipers in the same way as you might or might not get it with Brembos.

A lower friction pad and grooved discs can help.

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Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1567911
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No news about WMS brake system?

Re: 16vt hub specs and measurements needed [Re: ] #1570846
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I still have them and after 5 years I still have a great perforan ce.

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