Lets face it, we all wanted it to be good, but it ain't. Shame! Sometimes it's best just to move on!

Did get a few laughs but the military stuff, hmmmm. Still don't care much for 'The American'. The 'Celebrity Brain Crash' feature is already getting old.
I did like the nod to the chap who built a replica Sauber Mercedes C9. Bit more exposure of enthusiasts and their creations / ingenuity could be a good regular feature.

Agreed Barney that car was epic shame they didn't make more of it.

I find it hugely disappointing that they had all the time to develop something special and they end up with a TG clone which seems more stale than before.

It seems to me that Amazon have given the guys free reign to showcase all the stuff they are crap at. Their last TG shows were generally poor and it felt like they had run out of ideas and TGT seems to be reinforcing the view.

I certainly would not take up Amazon Prime simply because TGT was included. I'm not sure I will bother watching any more either and, as Amazon have increased the price of Prime in Germany, I'm now even less sure I will extend my membership.

To say old TG was generally poor seems a little harsh but I agree wholeheartedly they were running out of ideas.
I suspect waning originality has been compounded under Amazon by risk of BBC copyright infringement. Losing accesss to successful regular features is patently a major setback, but even the way Clarkson, Hammond and May speak to each other is intensely scrutinised. With commonly used phrases and established gags disallowed it's no wonder some of the on-screen chemistry appears to have faded. If earlier incarnations of Clarkson's Top Gear weren't great, it'll take time for the team to adapt and develop TGT, they really are starting again. Here's hoping anyway!

I didn't say old TG was poor, just the last shows

Previously they did a Peugeot and an ambulance sketch that were pathetic attempts at comedy. The same direction was seen in the Jordan training sketch. I fear they are exploring a type of comedy for which they appear to have little talent. For example, what is the point of pretending to invite an interesting guest and then showing them die? It just seems to say "we could do something interesting but we really can't be bothered". Is this really how you pin an audience to their seats?

I expect if they actually do grand tours through interesting countries, with exciting cars and wind back the slapstick, they will rebuild a foundation to work from. The stuff they appear to want to to just makes them look third-rate.

Couldn't agree more. I always got the feeling that lesser episodes in the twilight years of TG were just filler, budgets running low or maybe the interesting new cars had already been featured. Poor comedy is their attempt to compensate for lack of quality content. No doubt some ideas sound great on paper (while drinking) but don't translate well to the screen.
Probably optimistic but I hope the complete reboot, with legal obstacles, is at least some of the reason TGT underwhelms. Hopefully they'll figure out that crap gags aren't the only recourse to fill a 60 to 70 minute programme.

Meanwhile, "back in the studio" new TG is stuck with fresh presenters failing to deliver the old team's concept of a car show. They're the ones who need to start anew.

well, i beg to differ. Thought the first show was a bit naff but the second one gave me more smiles and even a couple of laugh out loud moments . I must be easily pleased !!

The Grand Tour tent is up on the shores of Loch Ness not that far away from me.