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R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion #1661137
11/10/2022 08:36
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Please post replies here....


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661140
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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661178
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Sounds good. Be interested to hear how you get on with the brakes. For me the brakes are the one weak point on the car I don't like, other things are forgivable. Like you the previous owner of mine looked after them and upgraded pads and disks however compared to more modern vehicles they are still lacking when 'pressing on'.

Personally I find Brembo brakes to be overrated, perhaps they have improved but I had them on Ducati bikes back in the early 90's and they all benefited from a master cylinder upgrade (pity we cannot do that on the Coupe) before they had true bite. Conversely my Qwaker with Nissins could lift the rear wheel with just 2 fingers on the lever.


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661181
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I agree, my description of the stock brakes is that the feel is wooden and also feels almost non servo assisted.
Coupled with not much threshold before they cook themselves with a bit of spirited driving

Anyway I'll post my progress and views once I've done the work

Cheers Jamie


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661199
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When I got mine, stock brakes were wooden, check braking in motorway traffic was non-existent. Completely solved with decent pads. Currently using Brembo discs & pads and they're good, plenty of stopping power. The pedal still needs a bit more pressure than most modern cars, but I prefer it that way.

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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: wink] #1661203
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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661282
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New springs arrived today, but waiting for the ARB and the OSRAV shocks before I set to work

Jamie

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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661286
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I'll be interested to know how you find the Eibach springs. Mine is on supposedly standard spec springs. I don't feel the need for harder suspension, but it does look a bit too tall imo.

Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661287
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As I plan some track usage I wanted something a bit lower than OE for ride height, as I find the nose dips when you brake heavy, which in turn unsettles the car.

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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661372
22/10/2022 21:02
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(Jamie, I've moved the latest post to the project itself, the project thread is king smile )


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661373
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Ah, my bad

Thanks Jamie


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1661523
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Hi all, I’m almost ready to treat some of the underside of the car where there’s some surface rust

What’s peoples view on the ‘best’ product to use to treat the rust, I’ve seen reviews for the Jenolite spray that looks decent.

Importantly I want to get it right and not have to repeat the exercise , so I’m awaiting your advice

Thanks Jamie


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662015
20/11/2022 10:42
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Good progress smile

A word of warning when removing the fuel tank, the plastic connectors on top of the swirl pot become brittle with age so take great care when disconnecting


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662022
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Good shout ill take extra care

Cheers Jamie


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Jamiepm] #1662032
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In the past I’ve used a hair dryer in cold weather when attempting jobs with plastic.


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662033
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Thanks Jim


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662340
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Re the sump bolt Jamie, the technique we used on iour project car - which hadn't turned a wheel in at least 13 years - was a 600mm pipe over the socket driver using very slow rocking leverage.

Naturally we had soaked it in penetrant for days and yes it was a two-person job with one under the car holding the socket in place.


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662341
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I have extended breaker bars but it was mega tight

I’ve just messaged Graham and had a bit of fun with him about his strongman credentials 😉


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662513
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When it comes to the rear trailing arms, you might want to think about replacing with new (bearing included) to avoid the hassle of a refurb that still might end up with the arms looking like a scabby mess. Around £120 each from AutoDoc (I bought 2 pairs at less than that each, but quite a while ago)


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662528
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Hi Dave, good shout

My visual appraisal at present is they will clean up quite nicely, but if in reality they are scabby then I'll buy new, albeit I have bought the new bearings from Joe already

In other news today, turbo is being rebuilt as the piston ring and shaft is worn. From what the turbo guy told me it looks like when Owen developments did the job originally they machined the housing out to try and deal with shaft wear. Anyway its getting built with a new 360 bearing and staggered seal to stop the oil seeping through

Also on checking the manifold more closely (as per my pics yesterday), the mating face was quite badly warped and is probably why it's cracked again

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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662547
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Santa has bought me a couple of sets of H1 leds for the coupe


Also a nice private plate

Cheers Jamie

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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662675
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Looking forward to seeing the cleaning results from your homemade tank. Looks interesting. Maybe a project that I will look into at a later date.


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662678
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I’ll post pics tomorrow to show how it looks

The tank is easy to make, there are loads of videos on YouTube to show you how to do it


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread [Re: Jamiepm] #1662681
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That looks like the radiator bracket... I did exactly the same with mine. Used a wheelie bin on it's side with the solution and electrodes.
Worked well.

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Re: R803CGP restoration thread [Re: Gripped] #1662682
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Re: R803CGP restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662689
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One thing I’ve found with the electrolysis tank is you need to really clean the points where your copper wire touches the parts you’re trying to derust. Otherwise you don’t get all the rust removed.


So this morning I’ve done some additional cleaning and put the bits back into the tank to carry on the clean up

Cheers Jamie


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread [Re: Jamiepm] #1662756
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Did you use an off the shelf 'kit' for the electrolysis? The results look impressive!

Re: R803CGP restoration thread [Re: Jamiepm] #1662757
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no I just made one after looking on youtube for the basics of how to set it up

cost me about £10 in total


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread [Re: Jamiepm] #1662781
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Originally Posted by Jamiepm
no I just made one after looking on youtube for the basics of how to set it up

cost me about £10 in total


I might take a look at this as I've spent most of this week scrubbing rust off my horn (oo-er) and bonnet release mechanism and leaving them in white vinegar overnight. Absolutely mind numbing stuff but it's 95% there now.

Would it destroy plastic / softer metals?


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Re: R803CGP restoration thread [Re: Edinburgh] #1662785
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Definitely no issue with plastic, the only metal to avoid as far as I know is stainless steel due to the gases it gives off

Cheers Jamie


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