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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662786
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Peeps can you remember please to post comments on the Discussion thread especially as Begbie has recently tidied them all up thumb


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Jamiepm] #1662790
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Originally Posted by Jamiepm
Definitely no issue with plastic, the only metal to avoid as far as I know is stainless steel due to the gases it gives off

Cheers Jamie

I just looked up the guides on YouTube. I had no idea it was this easy. I have all if that currently set up, minus the battery charger, and that is 5 feet from it in the cupboard. I'll have a go tomorrow.

I assumed it was some kind of acid bath that would destroy some materials.

Incidentally, a video on 'bluing' popped up shortly afterwards. This looks interesting for a method of finishing / protecting metal after this kind of thing. I'd never heard of that.


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662791
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Let us know how you get on

Anyway a question for all….

As the car has black wheels, when I refurbish the brake calipers, I plan to paint them yellow. This then got me thinking about 2 other things to paint.

As I have the sparco strut brace which are red, I thought it would be a good idea to paint it in the same yellow paint

Likewise for the rocker cover I also thought to do the lettering in the same yellow and then paint the rest of the cover in black

What do people think?

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662792
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If the rocker cover will be black, paint the strut brace black.

Keep the calipers black with yellow brembo decals if you want.

Yellow will degrade visually more obviously and be more difficult to keep clean.


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662793
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No, I think this yellow/black thing is overdone, too common tongue laugh wink


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: DaveG] #1662794
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Originally Posted by DaveG
No, I think this yellow/black thing is overdone, too common tongue laugh wink


Don't take any notice Jamie, Dave is totally biased/jealous laugh


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662795
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Firstly Simon/Dave thanks for your replies wink

I will do yellow calipers rather than any other colour. I did initially think to do them red, but for me with black wheels and the body colour I wasn’t feeling it

But the rocker cover and strut brace I’m somewhat torn what to do or not confused

What I don’t want to do is make the car chavvy, so I may try photoshop to see what various options look like

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662796
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Well of course you can do what you like, it's your car, who cares what other people think?! Keep going, it's interesting to read about how it is going...


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Jamiepm] #1662797
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Originally Posted by Jamiepm

Likewise for the rocker cover I also thought to do the lettering in the same yellow and then paint the rest of the cover in black

What do people think?



Paint the surround of the word 'FIAT' yellow leaving the letters black and then paint the 20v Turbo characters in yellow thumb


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: DaveG] #1662801
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Hi dave,
Appreciate your comments , I do have another question


I'd put a lot more photos on but the ipad photos are generally above the 2mb threshold. Can you help?

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Trappy] #1662802
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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662816
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Ive got the derusting bug, the minute I take a bolt or part off, in the electrolysis bath it goes

I had quite some fun trying to undo the nuts which hold the horns and brackets on

Basically had to hammer a 3/8 socket on and despite using pb blaster they snapped off, so I’ll see if I can weld a new threaded stud to keep it looking factory before I reprint the assembly

Front wheel arch is stripped, only a few bits of surface rust, so better than I expected after removing the wheel arch liner


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662825
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For the very rusted nuts to stop them snapping the bolt/stud get an induction heater, in under a minute the nuts will be off absolutely no problem and totally re-useable. Just give them a few mins to cool before handling.

I think I posted a link to this before but I have this one:
https://www.woyosmart.com/products/...y-screw-removing-bearing-installing-tool

If there's one tool I wish I'd had 20 years ago it's this, even more so than an impact wrench. The hours and hours I've spent trying to remove very corroded bolts and snapped bolts etc. over the years, this is truly a game changer for working on old cars. Also useful for forming steel or bending an old spanner to any shape to access an awkward nut or whatever.

Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662827
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Cheers Graham, I'll have a look

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662828
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Lucky with the front wheel arch, there's often a 50p size hole where the rearmost fixing is, halfway up the liner.


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662829
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There's a few areas where the wheel arch liner has rubbed and created surface rust

So I've cleaned them up and put rust convertor afterwards

Then I'll etch primer and depending where within the arch will either be stone chip sealant or paint and lacquer

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662967
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Re the size limit for photos, yes it's a bit restricting but have you tried resizing them?

(I only know how to do it on a Mac frown )


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662968
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Hi Simon,
I had a look in settings on the iPad but nothing jumped out at me

Hence the google drive link which I hope works

I’ve only taken a few photos at present because of this

However tomorrow I’ll be taking a load of photos as I’ve refurbed a load of stuff and I’m going to try and get the drivers side wheel arch all tarted up

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662969
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Try opening the pics I “preview” and then go to tools. There should be a resize option.


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662970
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^^^ yep, this...


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662971
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Ah I’ll have a go later

Thanks Jamie


Just had a go, but using the default apple photos app, I can’t get to a preview option, I think I’ve clicked all the buttons I could see

Any chance of an idiots guide?

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662972
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Not sure on the iPad as I use a MacBook.
On the Mac its right click on any photo then there are a list of options. One option is "Edit with". When you go to this you get the option to then click preview. Hope that works for you on the iPad.


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662973
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Jamie, a quick Google search "reduce photo file size on iPad" comes up with a few options, rather too many to reproduce here, but perhaps one of them will work for you...


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Jamiepm] #1662974
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That link works great for me thumb


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662975
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Cheers Simon, ive just packed my tools away for the day, so I’ll have a nosey later on 😉


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1662977
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Found an app, so I’ll give it a try


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Jamiepm] #1663253
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Where are the photos? smile

Btw, changing rear subframe bushes really improves the ride feel.

Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: 386ka] #1663254
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bv_IyVF6GCa8Iy3VzYooOsIdeRZLHG4R?usp=sharing

Here you go

Yes the old larger bushes were knackered, the trailing arm bearings looked ok, but I’ve changed them to save do the job again

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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1663296
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Jamie, I must be doing something wrong as I only ever see the same 11 photos - pity after all the restoration hours you've put in!


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Re: R803CGP / C20VTJ restoration thread - Discussion [Re: Edinburgh] #1663304
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Hi Simon , thanks for the heads up

I’ll have a look later and see if it’s something I’ve done !

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