the problem is with the GT R or RS actuator:
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And this is on a 20vt Chris and not a 16vt engine???

Judging by the exhaust manifold that is a 20vt

http://www.kingpleb.talktalk.net/coop/Turbo%20work/Car%20turbo%20work%20005.jpg

This is what my standard unit looks like form the tope but i suppose we can always transfer the actuators over as its only a 5-10min job...

Sorry ive had 4hrs sleep and just looked at it again

I want my bed

yes it's a GT28 RS on a 20 VT but with the original actuator (from the standard t28)...
do you not have any photographs of assembly with a GT28R or RS on an engine of 20VT? thx

Sorry ive had 4hrs sleep and just looked at it again

I want my bed
>>> good night!!

I wish matey but its 0930 here and that means7hrs work left to do

there's no problem...i must go too.
have a good day

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what 's about that? we have the same problem in France and we have to use the standard actuator; what's wrong?

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Would it not be better to use an uprated actuator with an uprated turbo?... the standard one wouldnt do as good a job at holding the wastgate shut, from what i understand?

AFAIK, from what i read on the old forum the GT28RS WILL fit on our cars with the actuator it comes with, but its the 28R that doesnt.

Mike

Would it not be better to use an uprated actuator with an uprated turbo?... the standard one wouldnt do as good a job at holding the wastgate shut, from what i understand
>>> sure ; that'what i said to my friend who makes the assembly

AFAIK, from what i read on the old forum the GT28RS WILL fit on our cars with the actuator it comes with, but its the 28R that doesnt.
>>> it's a RS....

I have got an upgraded actuator so ill be fine swapsies me thinks as i dont fancy the RS to be honest im just after something solid which shouldnt be hard compared to what i have now...

Hi,

This picture is from GT28R, not GT28RS. Look the intake fitting and the screw for the GT28R wastegate actuator. I have RS under bonnet with its own actuator (1 bar) and I didn't have any problems with it. I have plenty of photos taken from the OE turbo and actuator also GT28RS+actuator.

- Jari -

Jari could you email all you got over to plob@talktalk.net please? keep it to about 2meg per email if poss please or zip em up and ill download them asap and get them hosted up for ATP to see...

It would be excellent when all this is resolved if ATP could offer a package of all the necessary bits, I bet a lot more people would go for this if the accessories you need was more clear. I'm placing an order next month but am still a little confused, mainly with regard to the actuator.

Or perhaps someone could give a link to the actuator required ?

I'll second that. A nice package for either the R or RS - they'd sell quite a few if the prices mentioned turn out correct.

I have plenty of photos taken from the OE turbo and actuator also GT28RS+actuator.


jari>>>>i m really interested to see photographs from GT28RS+ actuator

chr77176 If you could email them to me as best you could it would be ace thanks as i want to build a zip file im my webspace for ATP to download and have everything they need and then i can say to them we want this and this and they can maybe make a Fiat Coupe 20vt Package and if the 16VT boys want some bits they can email me the same and what turbos they are looking at.... more usefull for 16vt guys as their engines are more commonly used in alfas and lancias as well...

Cheers in advance for getting stuck in here KP

Happy to help everyone as this could help a lot more than just us UK guys as they shiop worldwide it will help our euro and eastern buddies as well and the odd dodgey person in canada and places as well

And i look at it as trying to help keep more coops on the road, the longer they last the better for my car at the end of the day as more fresh bits for her as she gets older and more status as well showing Fiats cna be reliable(bar H's coop of course )

Yes well done Kingpleb. A quick count up on this thread shows 7 of us expressing an interest.
I for one am looking at this *possibly* just in time to get in on the Unichip group buy.

Did someone say "Group Buy" ? Yes I know they're already cheap, but if you don't ask............

"I have plenty of photos taken...">>>it was what Jari said!!

and I would like to see photographs if it's possible...thx

Group buy ive already asked about and even if 10units they are offering them so cheap they cant really help. maybe 20 units if a workshop like Powerfiat or Motormech or Torqueitalia wanted to get involved but to be honest i cant see them wanting to due ot the way the Warranty would work, but in my experience the warranty on a turbo is worthless, as said on the Hendy Group buy, they blame it on anything but the turbo and wriggle out of it, even though ive proven before with mine that the design was at fault and still is the companies just dont care....

the only trouble with us 16vt lot and the turbo's they list is that the turbo's they have all have a 5 bolt outlet flange, where as the coupe 16vt down pipe is just a simple 3 bolt flange elbow then becomes the downpipe

which type of photographs you need exactly?
i could post your request on the french forum ...

Just loads of the exhaust side of the turbo if possible please Chr77176

Begbie, yeah i understand that can be a pain too but if enough interest and enough pics is that type of outlet not used on other cars as well or a cheap adapter not available from ATP already?? if not im sure they would get one as a part made up if they got the corect specs for it..

They have the "eliminator" as used on the VW but if you fitted that and then tried putting the stock downpipe on to the turbo it wont fit due to the angle being pushed too far away

Ah well no worries, if you can think of anything let me know and ill try and see what they can do for you guys as well

its not the actuator thats the problem its the bracket that bolts it to the turbo, you can either modify the new bracket or Turbo Dynamics sell the modified bracket.

Kev