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Re: went on the rollers today #214799
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Ok. I've contacted Dastek. Highwayman's results kinda show that tactful management may provide plentiful results.

Ross

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Glad to hear that you have decided to investigate other routes Ross . You could also PM Rob from Perfect Touch (tweenierob) and see what his thoughts are on your situation. He is very knowledgeable about the Unichip and live mapping, and I'm sure that he could point you in the right direction .

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http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/h2ypr/rrgraph2.jpg

Well if he wants to offer me a discount, for travelling down south, then id consider it!!!

Ross

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Coupe Power Ross

I bet that RX-7 owner felt silly losing to a re-shelled Tipo



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He was actually brand new. Although from those comments on that rotary forum, most of them arent.

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You got a link Ross?



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Link to what?

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Congrats Ross king of the leaderboard!

Agree though, there's still more to come

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Well actually, there was an evo that ran later. It was 360/380bhp and ran 297bhp at the wheels!!!

Anyone know how much Perfect Touch charge for a Unichip?

Ross

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Its cheaper to get live mapping done Ross, your not paying for the equipment with live mapping.
From talking to Claudio at Perfect Touch I think its around £350 for a custom written chip.

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So thats better than a Unichip?

Ross

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Well its your own ECU doing the controlling insted of the Unichip correcting what the ECU is saying.
Not many coupe's had it done yet but there are quite a few booked in for next month, Im in on the 15th Nov and there are 2 before me I think ?

Its going to be just like a getc chip only written for your cars indidvidual needs, real time, on the rollers

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So that's what it is! I did ask and everyone ignored me



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Oh right. So we are thinkin that its going to be better?

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Well I don't know about all that techie stuff Ross but you coop looks, and sounds well good


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Ross, why wouldn't it be better than a unichip, its your own ECU doing the controlling and they would write you an entire new map for your coupe not just alter an existing map.

Re: went on the rollers today #214816
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Does anyone know the initial cost for a custom map and also the price for custom map remaps? Am trying to work out if it would be economically viable to ditch my unichip and go the custom map route.

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Alright mate,

I know not strictly on topic, but where about is the rolling road you used? Was thinking of getting my boost controller set up at Dastek as i didnt think there were many options up here.

Cheers

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Alright mate,

I know not strictly on topic, but where about is the rolling road you used? Was thinking of getting my boost controller set up at Dastek as i didnt think there were many options up here.

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Have you tried mv turbos in dunfermline?

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I went to AVA but i would recommend Falkland Performance in kirkcaldy. Kevin is a nice guy and will tell ya if anything is wrong.

Ross

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What a sh*t day.

Firstly i managed to set fire to the engine.

Secondly the rr session wasnt good.

1. Got the adjustable pressure regulator fitted last night and got to falkland. They gave me a gauge and as me and my mate were fitting a spark happened somehow and the fuel ignited!!!

I thought the end of my troubles was near, but then one of the guys ran out with a fire extinguisher.

Anyways. Fitted it, adjusted it to 3bar. Fitted a wideband lamba and placed it in the car. I sat in the passenger seat while the car was ran on the rollers. Wait till you read this!!!

Idle : 14-15 afr.
750-3000 : between 12-13 afr
3000-5000: 9.6-10.6afr
5000-6000: 10.6ish
6000+ : 13.3-13.7afr!!!

What the hell????? Fuelling is all over the shop. How the guy at the previous rolling road never noticed i'll never know.

Anyways, cut a long story short.

Graham L reckons the intercooler leak is messing with the air/flow meter and causing overfuelling midrange. Its lean at the top end because graham backed the fuelling off because i was told it was high throughout the range. So.

Original gtech2 is now back in the car and intercooler is due to be ordered soon. Going to re-run with new intercooler and see what its like with the original gtech2.

Interesting but very disappointing!!!! Didnt complete either of the runs because of the afr readings. Got to 320bhp at 6000ish rpm. Torque was 278lb/ft but considering thats with 9.6afr they were impressed!!!

Just generally feel sick now tho.

Ross

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Re: Crappy crappy bum bum. #214821
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Unfortunate day Ross, I wouldn't mess about any more with crude fueling attempts just get it sorted with a Unichip or live map. Sounds like you start to fuel ok around 5500rpm and then lean it out at the top end which will give you a bit more power so 320bhp is good but it's getting dangerous! I'm running 11.2 midrange and then even I start to lean out a bit towards redline at 11.8 w hich just about right I think coupés do quite well runnning on the rich side.

P.S. So is the MAHA dyno ok? What was your wheel power?


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Wheel power stated 245bhp at 6000rpm ish. So on the MAHA dyno it seems that wheel power is really low in comparison with there fly figure.

At the other dyno i used recently, there wheel power was 284bhp and they stated that 30bhp more would be around the bhp figure that i would have! that would bring me to about 314bhp. So you can see that the flywheel figures are similar but the at the wheel figures are different.

Ross

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Sorry to hear this mate.

Not been a good day for you at all.

I would agree ther's a lot of difference between your flywheel and your wheels. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've been told, to lose 30bhp or so here is about the norm. 75 seems an awful lot??

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I would agree ther's a lot of difference between your flywheel and your wheels. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've been told, to lose 30bhp or so here is about the norm. 75 seems an awful lot??




I was at Falkland on Friday, and having a look at my graph I am losing 60 brake between fly and wheels. Maybe it is just that particular roller

Re: Crappy crappy bum bum. #214825
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That is the way MAHA rollers work... higher load so lower wheel power but very accurate fly power.


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Re: Crappy crappy bum bum. [Re: Flea] #281725
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Went back on the rollers today...

Have been playing with my adjustable fuel pressure regulator and my wideband lambda sensor.

Firstly the car was boosting perfectly, and the fuelling was where i wanted it.

Took it to the rollers and there was an rs4 on the rollers. Asked a few questions and found out that even with a performance chip it was under the stated manufacturers power. Guy said every one he's tested is the same. Interesting eh?

Anyways, get my car on the rollers. Hooked up and start to run it up. Guy quickly confirms that the wideband i have is reading wrong on idle but part throttle is slightly lean and that i should change my normal lambda sensor. So thats something to do.

Anyways, onto the recording.

Car held boost well and was brilliant until 4000rpm at which point there was a loud bang and a "whoooosh".. brown trousers moment.

Fortunately it was a boost pipe that blew off. Jubilee clip is completely wrecked and rusted so replaced and sorted (the pipe that comes up from the old side mount position) and back on the rollers to continue the power run.

Get to the end after some more scary moments (nothing wrong, me just crapping it) and the guy gets out laughing.

291bhp at the wheels. at 6500rpm.
Power at 7000rpm was 276bhp at the wheels.
So pretty happy with that.

I'll get my graph loaded up asap.

Ross

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http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/h2ypr/Copyofdigipics001.jpg

Here is the graph.

Ross

p.s. done a revised graph on excel but cant figure out how to get it into a picture instead of worksheet. Anyone know?


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