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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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10/01/2006 22:25
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I don’t think the plate would be legal. I believe there has to be a set distance between letters.  Then again a lot of people do it anyway.  Depends how friendly the Police are around your area! 
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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10/01/2006 22:26
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I think there's also a set size for the plate itself.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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10/01/2006 22:41
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IIRC there is a minimum spacing around the outer edge of the letters (11mm?) on mine I have trimmed it down to much less (7mm? 5mm?), and being as it's C1UPE it's not very long either, although all the spacing is legal. That's with the old style font, new font would be shorter still. Trimmed tight like that it fits better on the front bumper and doesn't hardly block the air intakes 
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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11/01/2006 02:31
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You can get a numberplate called a short standard, I only have 1 number in my plate and have looked into and they a perfectly legal, just not many places sell them, think they are actually quite a smaller than normal too.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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11/01/2006 05:25
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I think the regulations are a bit more forgiving for pre 50 / 51 series (ie up to 'Y' Reg).
Your desires might still be illegal though !!
Pop in a (number plate)shop.... ask to read through their regs book ??
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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11/01/2006 06:19
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Craig, my front plate has been trimmed slightly and touch wood I've never had any problems from the police...
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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11/01/2006 06:24
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The standard short plate is about 6 inches shorter than the normal size.
My local Ford dealer makes them up, he has an official DVLA plate guide up behind the counter with all the plates that are legal shown.
Downside is that he is pretty pricey.
I also found a site that does short standard as well for a very decent price so I will be getting a smaller front plate for my coop.
My friend has a short standard plate on his car and actually went to the police station to ask if it was legal and they told him it was OK after checking it.
I can find out for you how much they would be if you like.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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11/01/2006 06:26
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Craig, my front plate has been trimmed slightly and touch wood I've never had any problems from the police...
Guess where I got the idea in the 1st place... 
Well its just a standard plate, trimmed down with a hacksaw and smoothed so it looks perfect, even close up. The spacing hasn't changed at all, to be honest this annoys me when people do that.
Looks a lot neater IMHO.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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11/01/2006 07:47
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My plate is totly illegal. Its got no centre gapping. All the letters have the same size gap between them and to the edge. The stretch of road outside the old Rover works the police are always there on a friday with the vans that read your plate & tax disc. Iv had no problems with it. Even a copper said iv a nice car once and he was standing at the front of the car & didnt mention the number plate. I just must be lucky 
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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11/01/2006 07:55
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I was ok with mine for about 6 months, until one night when the police were bored and decided to give me a bollocking for it.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 00:32
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Ive also done the same thing but my reg is MX XXX altough ive the standard font and spacing ive trimmed it done on the sides to less than 1mm around the edge looks ive never had any bother with the police either, but i do carry my old plates in the boot just incase.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 00:49
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My plate is totly illegal. Its got no centre gapping. All the letters have the same size gap between them and to the edge. The stretch of road outside the old Rover works the police are always there on a friday with the vans that read your plate & tax disc. Iv had no problems with it. Even a copper said iv a nice car once and he was standing at the front of the car & didnt mention the number plate.
I just must be lucky
The cops are mostly fine about it. You'll need a proper plate to pass the MOT though.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 04:01
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My plate is totly illegal. Its got no centre gapping. All the letters have the same size gap between them and to the edge. The stretch of road outside the old Rover works the police are always there on a friday with the vans that read your plate & tax disc. Iv had no problems with it. Even a copper said iv a nice car once and he was standing at the front of the car & didnt mention the number plate.
I just must be lucky
The cops are mostly fine about it. You'll need a proper plate to pass the MOT though.
Cough cough *He's a freind* Cough
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 04:01
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Ive also done the same thing but my reg is MX XXX altough ive the standard font and spacing ive trimmed it done on the sides to less than 1mm around the edge looks ive never had any bother with the police either, but i do carry my old plates in the boot just incase.
Have you got a picture with the shortened plate?
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 08:30
12/01/2006 08:30
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I got a small number plate made up for the front of my first Coupe and the police were always pulling me over for it,i think the plate may have been a little on the small side though ClickyI cant see a problem with trimming the outside of a standard size plate though
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 18:46
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From the DVLA website I would say the smallest you could go would be 79mm in height - 11mm + 79mm + 11mm
11mm is spacing 79mm letter height.
Width would be 338mm - 11mm 50mm(A) 11mm 50mm(1) 33mm 50mm(A) 11mm 50mm(B) 11mm 50mm(C) 11mm
11mm is spacing, 50mm letter width (1 would be less), 33mm group space.
I got my plate trimmed height wise but not length and am fairly sure the above was on the right side of the law.
Facyplates.com trim to any size. Just use legal font!!
Si
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 18:53
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Well if you have a number that's shorter than usual, eg A1 ABC, then the DVLA regs only state that you have to have a margin around the letters - doesn't say anything about plate size unless I missed that? So a shorter number could have a shorter plate and still be legal - if you space it correctly. My plate is C8PPO, and I had it made with the gap between the 8 and the P being half the normal gap, i.e. 16mm instead of 33 mm. The gap between the other chars is 11mm, so it's all quite closely spaced. Haven't had a problem on the road yet, but they wouldn't MOT it until I paid for a "proper" set of plates
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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12/01/2006 23:53
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Quote:
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Ive also done the same thing but my reg is MX XXX altough ive the standard font and spacing ive trimmed it done on the sides to less than 1mm around the edge looks ive never had any bother with the police either, but i do carry my old plates in the boot just incase.
Have you got a picture with the shortened plate?
im on the case.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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13/01/2006 02:23
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heres some pics of my reg (with no sides) http://my.fotopic.net/collection/00825959/sorry about the poor quality my phone went all blue 
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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13/01/2006 03:31
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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13/01/2006 03:57
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Last edited by wightman; 13/01/2006 05:56.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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13/01/2006 07:34
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I still think i'd be winning on the illegalness stakes. I'll have to dig them out and get a pic.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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13/01/2006 07:56
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No it was normal size. It had incorrect spacing.
One of the numbers 'may' have been misrepresented slightly too.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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14/01/2006 22:57
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The BS that numberplates have to adhere to, does not (I think) specify that they should have a black border around it - just that the border should be 'non reflective'. Could get away with dull yellow perhaps?. Paint the back of the car yellow, buy a myriad of black numbers and letters and stick them all over the place. In amongst them put a 'legal' plate. Now that would confuse the hell out of the ANR detectors, and be totally legal !!!.  You may spend half your life being pulled over though !!! 
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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14/01/2006 23:51
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Dave agreed re Wightmans plate Ive got the same size on the front as Wightman - and full size on the rear. In 3 years ive had 2 letters sent threatning that the DVLA would pull the plate from me if I continued etc. I ve been pulled over twice in 2 weeks during the 3 years, got a £30 fine and second cooper told me to get an mot stamp on a document he gave me. Ive stayed with the plate however ( Im stubborn ) Ive attached velcro to the back of the plate and if I get pulled again Ive got the full size in the boot and will say Ive just come from a car show/ meet or something and will immediately change over.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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15/01/2006 01:38
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wightman your front plate looks OK but back one looks plain silly IMHO
well that is your opinion. but i like it.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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18/01/2006 22:57
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Alternatively you could try it a completely different way & put them on 2 lines click
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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18/01/2006 23:04
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bolcks alot of air though.... the reason i wanted to fit ( and did) a smaller plate was to increase the amount of air into the rad, intercooler etc
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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18/01/2006 23:06
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ajg - beat me to it!
That plate is not going to be good for your rad - and if you decide on FMIC in the future will be bad for that too.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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19/01/2006 06:04
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Not noticed any increase in temperature, but will keep an eye on it.
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Re: Shortened Number Plate
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19/01/2006 17:20
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Why make life a hassle.. just use a standard plate with standard lettering and buy a nice private number to go on it e.g. FCC 123
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