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carbon/gpr bonnet
#274825
13/01/2007 18:34
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im sure that someone was seeing about having one of these made up about a year ago when i was last regularly using the forum so am wondering if there are any available yet.
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13/01/2007 18:55
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This is the latest development.
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13/01/2007 19:12
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spankyou very much kind sir i originally had a quote for a c/f bonnet about 2 years ago of £750 per bonnet plus about £1k for the innitial mould charge.i would have thoguh that a c/f coupe bonnet would weigh less than 10-12kg,although this depends on the level of rigidity built into it ect.
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14/01/2007 00:47
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Awwww... Pity, i'd love a carbon bonnet...
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14/01/2007 19:48
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get one made up then,its just a case of monen as most carbon bonnet suppliers will make you a 1 off,for a price
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14/01/2007 19:48
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get one made up then,its just a case of monen as most carbon bonnet suppliers will make you a 1 off,for a price
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14/01/2007 22:35
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Maybe so mate, but for a one off, it'd cost more than my car is worth So i'll either gewt mine sorted or wait until a group buy is sorted, Ta...
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15/01/2007 06:41
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fair comment i spose,still gonna be upwards of £600 for a cf bonnet even in a groupe buy as its alot more complex to make a bonnet for a coupe than a normal cars bonnet!! like i say i was quoted about £750 per bonnet plus the same for a mould so if i got say 15 people to buy one it would be like about £800 facoring a percentage of the mould price split between 15 people,problem is i would probably have to get a 1 off for me because i wouldnt just want a copy,i would want it lipped slightly to deflect wind off the wipers and also subtle venting to keep engine bay temps lower.
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15/01/2007 06:41
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fair comment i spose,still gonna be upwards of £600 for a cf bonnet even in a groupe buy as its alot more complex to make a bonnet for a coupe than a normal cars bonnet!! like i say i was quoted about £750 per bonnet plus the same for a mould so if i got say 15 people to buy one it would be like about £800 facoring a percentage of the mould price split between 15 people,problem is i would probably have to get a 1 off for me because i wouldnt just want a copy,i would want it lipped slightly to deflect wind off the wipers and also subtle venting to keep engine bay temps lower.
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16/01/2007 00:10
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That would look tidy mate, you mean like a raised lip on the back edge?
Also some cut-in louvre lines the same width and angle as the back of the headlamp (sort of like the Ferrari 308) would look very nice IMO.
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16/01/2007 05:32
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not raised up from the front more from each corner so the bonnet is higher in the middle,kinda so the std lines arent tarnished too much.the best louvre job would be to replica the ferrari 575 le-mans car louvres,i actually mocked one up on paper about 3 years ago but like i say not everyone would want one like this so whatever i decide im pretty much not gonna be able to do a groupe buy
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16/01/2007 05:32
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not raised up from the front more from each corner so the bonnet is higher in the middle,kinda so the std lines arent tarnished too much.the best louvre job would be to replica the ferrari 575 le-mans car louvres,i actually mocked one up on paper about 3 years ago but like i say not everyone would want one like this so whatever i decide im pretty much not gonna be able to do a groupe buy
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16/01/2007 20:50
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ooopsie.if i didnt know what the insides of a coupe bonnet looked like i would say that you could beat that dent out,but i do so i wont
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16/01/2007 20:50
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ooopsie.if i didnt know what the insides of a coupe bonnet looked like i would say that you could beat that dent out,but i do so i wont
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16/01/2007 23:16
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Most of it will pull out, then filler the rest, got a dint like that on the corner of mine where someone has put their boot in it... As for the louvres, thats sort of how I meant only right behind the headlamps. EDITED TO SAY: And it won't let me delete the second one!
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#276328
17/01/2007 14:59
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Having a GRP, Carbon or even Fibre glass would be beneficial in my opinion.
Firstly the standard steel bonnet is very heavy. From just a small performance point of view, having a less weight on the car would improve performance, perhaps only marginally though.
Secondly, the steel ones are no longer manufactured by Fiat, so getting hold of a replacement is going to start to get very difficult, (if not impossible already).
There has been mention of "what if's", in an accident scenario with an aftermarket bonnet, and would insurers still insure a car with an aftermarket bonnet. I've checked with my insurer over this (Admiral) and they state that that as long as the overall style/look of the bonnet remains the same as the original, premiums would not be increased, and the car would still be insured.
I think there are some technical issues to consider with this.
Firstly the lights, and how they are bolted to the steel bonnet - is this something that can be easily done with an aftermarket (softer) or more brittle material...?
Secondly, the Bonnet Struts are designed to help an enormous weight lift up. If that weight is reduced alot, is that going to cause problems. *Could* the bonnet snap at the point the Bonnet Struts are attached to? *Could* the bonnet lift by itself?
If the technical issues are easily sorted, then the manufacturer who eventually produces these will have quite a few people interested.
It's a shame Mariusz is over in Poland, as the only issue for him is getting the enormouse clam-shell bonnet delivered from overseas. The only solution he has for that is to deliver, say, 10-20 bonnets, and have them stored with someone here.
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#276334
17/01/2007 15:24
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Now being that i am in the Haulage business i'm sure i could use a Polish haulier to bring over 20 Bonnets and store them here in my warehouse where we could then work out several bulk deliveries by me in the van to strategic points all over the UK.
Does this sound like a plan?
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17/01/2007 16:43
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mounting the coupe light to a carbon fibre bonnet isnt really a problem at all and the struts wouldnt really prove a problem either.the bonnet lifting could be a problem though but i wouldnt use the std bonnet latch anyway,i would weld 2 posts,1 either side of the front indicator fog lamps so there's 2 mounting points.insurance wise i dont think theres a problem,aint carbon fibre stronger than aluminium???and insurance companies have no problems insuring cars with alu bonnets.on the accident front the coupe bonnet bends proper easily when hit front.
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17/01/2007 18:36
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mounting the coupe light to a carbon fibre bonnet isnt really a problem at all and the struts wouldnt really prove a problem either.the bonnet lifting could be a problem though but i wouldnt use the std bonnet latch anyway,i would weld 2 posts,1 either side of the front indicator fog lamps so there's 2 mounting points.insurance wise i dont think theres a problem,aint carbon fibre stronger than aluminium???and insurance companies have no problems insuring cars with alu bonnets.on the accident front the coupe bonnet bends proper easily when hit front. I'm sure there are "workarounds" to get an aftermarket bonnet to be viable. And as mentioned above, in light of Fiat's apparent lack of stock & production, it has to be worthwhile.
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17/01/2007 18:41
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Now being that i am in the Haulage business i'm sure i could use a Polish haulier to bring over 20 Bonnets and store them here in my warehouse where we could then work out several bulk deliveries by me in the van to strategic points all over the UK.
Does this sound like a plan? That does sound like a plan. The main hiccup with Mariusz was delivery and storage. He said he has made Fibreglass bonnets previously. Costs would be lower than expected (Mariusz's prices are always very good). What would be the next stage in organising this? Sparco, should I ask Mariusz to PM you, so that you can work out if this is logistically okay? Or would you prefer to PM Mariusz?
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#277091
18/01/2007 04:13
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Does this mean no carbon ones will be made? would they look very very daft unpainted on a yellow coop?
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#277132
18/01/2007 04:58
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i would paint one rather than leave it bare carbon fibre coloured.when i get my coupe i will start looking for someone to make me one but like i say mine will likely be a 1 off.
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#277140
18/01/2007 05:06
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i'm with you dean, yellow coupe with a carbon bonnet. only reason i would buy one if im honest. then i can black my alloys too.
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#277233
18/01/2007 13:56
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Matt i'm afraid the guy i now use of r carbon bits won't do bonnets, only little things, bike stuff mainly.
Cicolo if you get Mariusz to PM me or e-mail me at marco@haigtransport.co.uk and we will see what the logistics of it all are and i'll work out transport costings. This way hopefully we can come up with an all in price for a GRP bonnet.
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18/01/2007 14:52
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Sparco; I'll contact Mariusz, and get him to contact you to work things out. As for Carbon, I think Mariusz will also produce bonnets in that material too, but clearly this would be more expensive.
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