how do i tell the difference between the plus model and the 20 valve 6 speed?

Red stiched recaro's
Strut brace
Red Rocker
Red Brembo's
Side Skirts
Front Lips
ID-Chassis Number-floorpan

bla bla bla etc

Thanks Carl, have found a car described as a Plus but none of the above except for the strut brace. Don't know about the chassis number - what should I be looking for if I ring the guy? If it doesn't have all the above is it a 6?

Red stiched recaros are the hardest to get, just ask if it has them

If it hasnt all the above then its not a Plus.

Its a 6 if it has six speed box, silver 180 dials and push start. 2000 registered, usually w-reg's.

Thanks again Carl, it would appear to be a 6 and not a Plus (goddammit!) Oh well, will keep looking. Cheers

This is a plus

why does it have to be a plus??the only difference between a plus are a few tartish details which dont make the car any faster/handle any better/brake any quicker,all they add is insurance cost although i must admit i like the side skirts and front bumper spats but thats only reason i would buy a plus over a 20vt and it would only cost £200 to add the skirts/sparts,about £20 to paint the calipers,£100 for strut brace ect

You Call Recarros tartish

Go wash your mouth out and hope that CarlT does not see your comments

Sounds like someone is trying to justify why they didn't get the better model. Normal 20vt seats are not very nice. If I had to get another coupe I wouldn't even consider a normal 20vt, plus or LE only IMHO.

Well my boyfriend (the f*cker ) has bought himself a 20vt recently just to play with while his Evo VIII (FQ300 with 370 bhp!) goes in for servicing and his vt seats are just fine. I like the styling mods on the Plus but the prices they are commanding just cannot be justified

Just fine is different from Great. Bet the evo is a right animal.

And this is a 20VT(6). The side skirts are colour coded but straight unlike the plus/LE ones.

They just have the sills painted. No skirts required.

Another thing you could try, if you know the licence plate of the vehicle, is to input it into the RAC data search:-

RAC Data check

If it's a plus it'll say 20v turbo plus

as is this too:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r272/n7steve/L1000558.jpg

all the best bits - none of the lairy bits

A plus is hardly lairy !

They're comfortable but not supportive. Big difference between 20vt armchairs and his Evo's Recaro's.

Only for 20% of Plus's mate.

See my reply here if you wonder why.

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=280668&page=1#Post280668

Im too unwell to bother retaliating to be honest.

We all know anything bar a Plus is inferior. Ok maybe an LE especially a slut red one .

Well I have a 20VT(6) and it has a Strut brace and optional Recaros (not red stitching tho). I just need some lips and Skirts and I will basically have a Plus (bar some red parts).

I looked at a few Plus when buying mine but could not justify the extra cost and insurance.

Good luck with the search

What are you after in particular, any preference?

I think that when you see a car, you either like it or not regardless of which model it is.

Good luck

wella ctually the plus recaro's aint tartish its the le that has the horrible seats

justify??erm why?if i wanted a plus i would go and buy one,simple as but i dont see why they warrent an extra grand on the price of a 20vt when they are no better to drive :)my 20vt seats were fine,you must just have a fat ass

I think plus's look great in pictures and much better than painted sill models, but in real life the plastic side skirts do look plastic and stuck on.

The recaros are better than the standard seats.....although no lumbar support. Its a sports car so recaros are just the job.

Strut brace is ace!

* i also think that black sill models look really nice in pictures as the car always seems thin and low, very ferrari like!

Jayzee, I have posted a wanted on the forum but basically - having spent more time on here and seeing a few more coupes - I'm after a 20vt/20vt[6]/Plus. Def need leather (black) and aircon, Porto blue or yellow Originally had a budget of £3000ish but have found a few more pennies so just looking for the perfect car! I'm very fussy though so may be some time before I find one, though I think I could navigate the forums etc in my sleep now!

Erm 3k wont buy a decent 20vt 6 infact thats just enough for a decent 20vt really.

Look for a decent one, as apposed to high reg & spec as you will end up buying a shed otherwise.

I bought mine of a forum member in spetember for £6300 see here

If you want a 20VT(6) you gonna need to rethink the budget i would guess £5k min and a plus is the better part of £7k

£3k will get a reasonable 20VT

Good luck

Found a 'Plus' within my (revised) budget which turned out to be a 20vt[6] so thats what actually started this thread. Just doing some more research ....... I know I can't get a Plus for that money, maybe next year !!!

From a point of view of a Coupe dummy... all these models look the same to me exterior wise I suppose it's what inside that counts?

Good luck with your search, though. Hope you will find the perfect one

Something to bear in mind is this..... if you buy a 20vt6 and put side skirts on it, you have modified your car. Therefore you need to declare this.

Not too difficult to turn a 6 speeder into Plus spec, just look at mine below !!!! Only thing I am missing is the Recaros, which I can live without.

I am 72 kg hence my Recaro's are just great. Oh and I haven't sat in it since October helps.

well im 69kg and my standard 20vt cloth seats were just fine too although i aint sat in them for about 2 years,probably a bit longer

I still own mine.

Matter of taste, the LE seats look fantastic in the flesh and suit the Black and Vinci and Red so well!

People just seem them and get scared by em, actually see one in the flesh and its different.

i have seen them in the flesh,i wouldnt have commented on them if i hadnt.
but fair do's it is all about personal taste,same as car colour

I know how you feel

Something you will seriously fall for will eventually turn up

Happened to me with both the coops I've had. Neither was what I was actually looking for but they fitted the bill for me and haven't regretted either (/me runs off to hug a big tree).

Wanted a turbo but bought an n/a with a really good history which still scared/exhilarated me to drive. I only owned a mk3 1.4 Golf at this time and just thought that will do for starters (until I learn to drive something with a modicum of poke) and it was a great car.

Wanted a low mileage plus and bought a high mileage 20VT(6) (with superb history) go figure! Helped that the 6 had the six speed box, plus alloys and a start button which I craved and thought "forget about the body kit and strut brace" (although I now have the latter).

It will just feel right and the more lemons that you look at the more you'll know it's right when you find the right one. The more lemons looked at the better IMHO.

that is the a lovely colour combo, i dont like ink black and i dont like tan leather but that just works so well.

as for all these comments about LE seats being tarty etc well your wrong end of story.

But if we were all the same this world would be a very boring place to live.

Paul R

Well, looked at a few lemons and have now got myself a Coupe Picking it up Saturday so will update you all then, suffice to say I spotted it and fell in lust !!! Roll on Saturday ......

I agree, you need to see the lemons so you know when you find the right one

Congrats, don't keep us in suspense though, what is it?

think i looked at 4 before i settled on the one i used to have but i wanted a boggo 20vt without aircon/leather/sunroof rather than a coupe vanden plus

Yep, you may have to look at your budget to get the car you want

That's because they're not tan - they're sand

If it makes you feel better, yes they are sand

Hey there is no wood trim in my LE!