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Quickest 16vt on forum? #30536
20/01/2006 04:47
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I know now that the 16vt are short to spare and the amount on the forum is tiny compared to the common as muck 20vt ( i like winding the 20vt boys up)
After this weekend my coupe spec(enigne) will be the following;

- de-cat 3" back
- K&N induction kit
- EVO chip (plugs also)
- 3bar fpr
- Tipo inlet cam

So who has the most powerful 16vt then? i know begbie will prob do so but he's off the road at the mo (i think).so cant count

i must or should be pushing 250bhp. what do you think?

post what you've got then.

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30537
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Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30538
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I told you begbie it only counts if you have it on the road. so not valid.

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30539
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Prior to self destruction it was that, so still had more power than yooooooooou


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Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30540
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wightman youve almost got the same specs i had last year but i didng have the tipo inlet cam. at the moment im having full headwork done on my coupe and new intercooler and turbo (gt28rs .86ar) fitted. Begbie here will probably hold the fastest 16vt title here but im hoping to be close behind in second place

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Prior to self destruction it was that, so still had more power than yooooooooou




@ begbie some power is better than no power

@ ragz what were you putting out when you say you had the same spec as me?

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Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30542
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Mines 254bhp and 308lbft, but that was when i just got the blitz and did'nt quite know the correct set ups e.g. it was'nt turned up to best setting for the car and i've also picked up on a few thing that were faulty/ incorrectly fitted since, so it may now have a little more in it

With the mods your doing expect around the 235/245 area, you'll need a good boost controller to keep the turbo spinning nicely and i would advise a good intercooler to keep the temps down

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30543
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Trizza (Tristan) (think you've spoken to him recently Begbie re: boost hose popping off) - Has Trev's old 16VT - Evo FMIC, Hybrid, Evo chip, Ram air - RR'd at over 270bhp without the full (albeit catted) 3" Powerflow exhaust. It's bloody quick. Accleration-wise it feels a gear quicker than my standard 20VT.

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30544
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Oh yeah begbie, touch wood its been reilable power sofar

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you'll need a good boost controller to keep the turbo spinning nicely and i would advise a good intercooler to keep the temps down




think thats the next step FMIC and straight intake to turbo.
what bosst controller have you got?/ how good is it?

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30546
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was dynoed 204hp/304nm with a weird chip that ran too rich before the turbo kicked in and too lean while on boost. but after fitting an evo chip and a tubular manifold i did a 13.989s @ 169km/h 1/4mile run. according to g-tech pro 0-60mph is around 5.3-5.4secs. i guess anywhere from 240-260hp maybe !?

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So who has the most powerful 16vt then?




That'll most likely be over on the Evo Forum and sitting in the front of an integrale

No shortage of 300+bhp integrales, Pete Simpson who raced with me last year was showing 365bhp and there are one or two round that are probably pushing 400bhp but prefer to remain quiet about it

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30548
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So who has the most powerful 16vt then?




That'll most likely be over on the Evo Forum and sitting in the front of an integrale

No shortage of 300+bhp integrales, Pete Simpson who raced with me last year was showing 365bhp and there are one or two round that are probably pushing 400bhp but prefer to remain quiet about it




Were talking about coupe's though Trevor If we wanted to talk about the "heads shoved up their arses forum" we would have included them, but if were going to talk about the most powerful 16vt, we might as well say that belongs to Greg from ACE motorsport who has 900 odd bhp


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Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30549
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True - but the actual question as I quoted was "So who has the most powerful 16vt then?"

Is your engine going in the coupe or the Tipo?

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Coupe.

Tipo was sold last year, also realised i need to order that headgasket off you too


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So who has the most powerful 16vt then?




That'll most likely be over on the Evo Forum and sitting in the front of an integrale

No shortage of 300+bhp integrales, Pete Simpson who raced with me last year was showing 365bhp and there are one or two round that are probably pushing 400bhp but prefer to remain quiet about it




Were talking about coupe's though Trevor If we wanted to talk about the "heads shoved up their arses forum" we would have included them, but if were going to talk about the most powerful 16vt, we might as well say that belongs to Greg from ACE motorsport who has 900 odd bhp





i take it you dont got on with the lancia lads?
and 900bhp WTF!!!! out of a 4 cylinder would def like to see that anylinks begbie?

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30552
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Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30553
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I dont mind them, they just come across on their forum, a bit arrogrant / up them selves, if someone modifies the bodywork they turn all nasty and slate the person for doing so and if you ask about how to get 400bhp from an engine, you just get told your dreaming and its not possible with spending ten of thousands of pounds

http://www.guy-croft.com/page17.html half way down you see pics of the engine bay, also if you look on http://www.greekdragster.com/ you can find various videos of another stupidly power integrale


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Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30554
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I know I haven't got the fastest (Evo chip, de-cat), but I just wanted to add that it flies, and is perfect on this set up, very smooth and so reliable! Just thought I'd add that as there aren't too many 16vt threads around these days - can't be that many 16vt's left on here, in fact they are probably the rarest of Coupes now??

Re: Quickest 16vt on forum? #30555
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Not as rare as a 16v N/A or a 1.8 16v

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Not as rare as a 16v N/A or a 1.8 16v




correct me if im wrong but the 1.8 16v are non UK.

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Not as rare as a 16v N/A or a 1.8 16v




correct me if im wrong but the 1.8 16v are non UK.




Yes but we do have forum users who are non-uk based (holland, germany, twaian, australia, new zeland, belguim) so if your asking a question on the forum you have to take into account everyone who uses it!


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jeezz, having troubles spelling country names right beggars

Besides that, the 1.8's aren't that rare in Holland. I guess most people just wanted the good looks of the coupe, without spending extra for performance. Saying that, the 1.8 is in real life as fast as a 16v N/A.

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you'll need a good boost controller to keep the turbo spinning nicely and i would advise a good intercooler to keep the temps down




think thats the next step FMIC and straight intake to turbo.
what bosst controller have you got?/ how good is it?




I've got the blitz sbc id 3 and it's really easy to use blah blah blah i personally think it's the best for the money i paid for it off e-bay, and also have the pace fmic, needed a few mods to the intake system to fit it to the 16vt, but i do notice the boost is alot more definate on motorways, but without a boost controller i found that the performance was very poor around town, more lag and the boost pressure droped to around 0.8bar.
Since i fitted the controller and replaced all the hose with silicone one's and fitted a straight intake pipe i have noticed alot off differance, the turbo comes in at around 3200rpm and holds 1.2bar up to around 5500rpm, i'm just to lazy to go and get it rr again but it does feel alot better than when i had it tested before.

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whats the benefits of fitting a tipo inlet cam out of interest?

oh yeah my 16vt is standard apart from a full stainless(with cat) and a green induction kit

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I think the tipo cam has a higher/longer lift, to allow more flow in to the cylinder, more flow more power, but i havent personally tried one yet.

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just had the tipo cam fitted and evo chip.

FCCUK me what a differance !!!! however i did drive it with just the tipo cam fitted and you can feel a better pull around 4000rpm to 5500rpm.

very very happy about the performance as you'll see soon in the coupe vs area. what a race i had!

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http://www.bulletracing.se/

16v integrale with 850hp =)

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It's not a Coupe doesn't count

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http://www.bulletracing.se/

16v integrale with 850hp =)




the exhaust and inlet manifold + the chargecooler on that car were made here in estonia by laki tuning. i've even seen it with my own eyes

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Maybe not on this forum, but it would be a little short sighted not to check what integrale owners/developers are doing. The 16vt was fitted to the integrale long before the Fiat Coupe even appeared on Mr Bangle's drawing board so the specialists will have have that much longer to work on them

Different with the 20vt and that only really got fitted to the Coupe in any numbers, and that's where most Coupe engine development has been aimed

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