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Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437090
17/09/2007 16:30
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Cheers for posting the graphs up Leighton! \:\)

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437092
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Eldinho, thinking about it, we should maybe get the rr done at somewhere which will show a comparison. I.e. a dastek or maha dynometer?

Ross

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437094
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Ross, have you got any suggestions where to go? Also I may be struggling to make the weekend which we had originally planned may have to be the week later. Also would like a bit of time to play around with the settings on the blitz this time! \:\)

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437097
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Thanks for organising this guys, i had a great day and enjoyed meeting everyone. Chuffed with my results - 255hp with cone filter, exhaust and SUPERCHIP! this trip put my mind at ease about blowing £400 on the chip cos by the looks of it if i had gone for a gtech it would have done nothing! but to be fair it has smoothed out the power curve and improved mpg on a few peoples cars from what i saw.
Just makes me wonder if the gtech may have actually been harming some peoples motors cos some were well down on power, but this could have been anything i suppose. I dont think there was anything wrong with the rolling road, i was expecting about 260bhp but got 255bhp. had a good day though

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437098
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 Originally Posted By: eldinho
Ross, have you got any suggestions where to go? Also I may be struggling to make the weekend which we had originally planned may have to be the week later. Also would like a bit of time to play around with the settings on the blitz this time! \:\)


Well there is dastek which is up here, or one of there rollers which is slightly closer. Or there is a maha dynometer at falkland performance in fife. They have a website.

http://www.falkland.co.uk/

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Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437102
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think fife is just a bit too far to be honest ross, i think i'm a bit crazy driving all that way for a rr as it is! \:P

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437110
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Just another thought- RS tuning in Leeds have just purchased a brand spanking RR. maybe it would be a good idea to organise a day there for comparison!?

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id be up for that \:\)

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437136
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me too. my Blitz boost controller and boost gauge are giving higher readings than the RR boost graph gave me.

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Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437137
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Me too so long as I've got the Greddy sorted by then. \:\)

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437140
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 Originally Posted By: MattW
me too. my Blitz boost gauge and boost controller are giving higher readings than the RR boost graph gave me.


Likewise, nice sig pic by the way matt! \:\)

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437141
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Thanks, cowboy took it on saturday, great picture \:\)

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437145
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thats my pic,copy rights lol,
let me no when the next one is as i will come the night before and leve it there over night nice and cold for the rr next day as flea saz, dont think it was right to travel 150miles the go stright on the rollers,plus ill have the greddy in then,sure theres more in her some were


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Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: cowboy] #437150
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yoink! what's copyright? \:D

your RR results could have been worse...

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437153
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Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: cowboy] #437170
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I have just emailed rs tuning and requested some prices,will let you now what they say. For anyone interested in a proper chip-they'll do one for £350 and a rolling road thrown in

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: MattM] #437178
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 Originally Posted By: MattM
I have just emailed rs tuning and requested some prices,will let you now what they say. For anyone interested in a proper chip-they'll do one for £350 and a rolling road thrown in


What qualifies as a proper chip? \:\?

I've still got faith in the Gtech1 chip and will put it back in (or ask Craig to \:\) ) once I know the Greddy's OK.

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437244
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a proper chip qualifies as one that does something!

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: MattM] #437247
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just recieved an email from RS tuning and if there are 10 cars or more they will charge £35 a motor for the same package as racing line did, but they are currently moving so it will be availible in 3-4 weeks

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: MattM] #437249
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That sounds perfect for me, I've already spent my life for this month

As long as it doesnt clash with the lakes meet on 6th October.

What is the difference between a £350 chip and a £35 gtech?

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437253
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Erm i dont know-all i can go off is the results from the rolling road-and it seemed to me that all the motors with similar mods to me were running less power. I had superchip, they had gtech! at the end of the day if a gtech was really that good, would he be charging £30 for it? i think that you get what you pay for. however i have no doubt that someone will have a different opinion!

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: MattM] #437256
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 Originally Posted By: MattM
a proper chip qualifies as one that does something!


Including engine damage?

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: MattM] #437258
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I think that someone needs to do some research before making that kind of comment. The GTEC is based on a Novitec - with a reduced overboost for safety, and has been used by huge numbers of coop owners. Novitec chips are £250 by the way. Superchips have been known to overfuel badly, and the Novitec's 1.8 bar overboost created issues - though I'm sure it felt quick in the midrange.

If you're running any form of boost control then all the chip does is regulate the fuelling and ignition advance. Plenty of cars have made 250-270 bhp on a gtec if their other mods support it, but as with any plug and play chip the results will vary from car to car.

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matt were you not the only person out of all of them that had a decat though? makes a big difference in my opinion.

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I'm guessing the £350 chip is custom mapped for your car rather than taking a conservative / average value of what can achieved safely with a plug and play chip.

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 Originally Posted By: eldinho
matt were you not the only person out of all of them that had a decat though? makes a big difference in my opinion.


I have a decat yes, what big difference does it make?

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Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437264
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sorry was talking about the other matt lol i wasn't there when you were there mattw so didn't know you're spec. but i think performance exhausts only make a difference once you get rid of the cat.

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437265
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The exhaust gasses can flow out better - and the exhaust gasses also drive the turbo, so you get more efficiency and should also be able to hold more boost towards the redline where you make your peak power figure.

Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: ] #437270
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There is certainly nothing wrong with the G-Tec chip. This was the first mod I made 3 years ago and with a panel filter I had 245bhp & 245lbs/ft.


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Re: RacingLine RR 15/09/07 [Re: Flea] #437274
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I agree, nothing wrong with the Gtech. I recently got 280bhp & 250lbs/ft.

Perhaps an idea for one of those that got lower than expected power to go back to their standard chip and then go for another run at the same rolling road and see what result they get?

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