Right, after Bedford & North Weald my Pagid 4-2's (Blue) are looking a little worn, so time for some new pads. The Pagids are good, and i know several coupe owners swear by them but im still unsure. I know the coupe's braking system is not the best in the world but with the Pagids i find that its very easy to make them fade on track and that they give the brake pedal a very mushy feeling, they also give you far to much pedal travel even when new and with new Motul RBF.

Am i expecting to much? I have driven quite a few Porkers (not on track mind) and i love the directness and responsiveness of the pedal, im not talking about brand new GT3's, im talking about 911's that are nearly as old as my coupe.

Is it just a pad characteristic or is it simply the coupes braking system that isnt fantastic. Im getting a GT28RS fitted over the next few weeks which will give me around 330-350bhp im guessing, so i really want to have brakes that i can be confident in with that kind of power.

Do i really need a big brake conversion and are they as good as they look? I would be furious if i shelled out £1500 for a kit which didnt "feel" different thats for sure.

I would like to mention that i am fairly agressive on track and really like to push the car, my driving style isnt the smoothest in the world, its more like grabbing the car by the collar and wringing its neck than Jensen Buttons "Where would Maa'm like to goto today" approach ( please no1 bring this up if ever sell the car, she does get looked after but i care little for mechanical sympathy when driving hard) ;p

Any advice please

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Not got blues myself, yellows instead. I've not been on a track day with them but when pushing on they just get better when they get hotter, conmpared to feeling pretty pants when they are cold.

Are you sure it's not air in the system or mega overheating caused by the pad jamming against the disc?

Two things that made the biggest difference:

1. EBC Yellowstuff

2. Better braking technique!

Not had any brake fade, boiling fluid or warping discs for the last 3 track days.

That's at some serious speeds too

Good points!

The Blues seem to have a midrange operating temp, if they get very hot they seem to completely fade away, I dont expect them to last 10+ laps but there usually cooked after 3-4 hot laps which im not happy with.

Rog changed my fluid before North Weald, so im assuming he bled them when he did the fluid change.

I have 3G20 grooved front and rear discs btw.

You could try pagid grey's - but the wont be as good as the blues from cold.

3G could make you up some 2 piece discs which would vent the heat better - but you can't do much more than that without spending well over a grand and needing bigger wheels.

or you're looking at 2K for a set of front alcon calipers that will fit under the standard wheels.

ive got 17" OZ's m8 with 20mm spacers so i have room for a massive increase in caliper size.