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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465538
23/10/2007 23:51
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Nice Results \:D

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465540
23/10/2007 23:52
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was the price fixed or do they charge an hourly rate?

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465541
23/10/2007 23:54
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 Originally Posted By: eldinho
was the price fixed or do they charge an hourly rate?


It's a fixed rate for the first map then I think its an hourly rate £110+VAT for re-maps.

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: OO7] #465572
24/10/2007 00:43
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http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/h2ypr/007graph.jpg#

I've included as many points as i could to make it a smooth looking graph.

Included peak bhp and torque.

Ross

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465634
24/10/2007 02:11
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fair play mate... very good figger there for them mods!

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465643
24/10/2007 02:21
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As above \:\)

Good power output \:#

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Paul_V] #465718
24/10/2007 03:49
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Nice one Chris - I'm made up for you mate. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465810
24/10/2007 06:23
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Here is joel v 007 if anyone is interested.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/h2ypr/joelv007.jpg

Notice how PT's map are the same shape but due to the turbo, its higher up the graph.

Ross

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465824
24/10/2007 11:39
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Nice result!

007: Didn´t you get boost- and AFR graph?
You have quite a big dip at 4000 rpm. Why?


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Freddan72] #465889
24/10/2007 14:21
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HI Chris,

Just found 5 mins to get on here \:D Replied to quite a few PM's etc etc... Anyways!!
I must be sounding like a stuck record now, i maintain that there isnt one other Marque of car that impresses me every time i do a new one like the Coupes, Yours is definately not an exception to this \:\)
After gettingthe low to mid throttle stuff done and getting some boost on i could not believe the spool up!!
As you can see from the graph the torque is in hard at 3500, on the road in 5th gear this was reduced to around 3300 with full boost around the 3100 mark.

Very good setup you have there chris, certainly not worth going forged IMHO... Cams/head yes \:\)

Once again nice to meet you mate, get some sleep lol \:D

Cheers

Rob

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465941
24/10/2007 15:22
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good results, your ambient temps were quite a bit lower than mine

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465942
24/10/2007 15:23
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good results, your ambient temps were quite a bit lower than mine

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465999
24/10/2007 16:35
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 Originally Posted By: Freddan72
Nice result!

007: Didn´t you get boost- and AFR graph?
You have quite a big dip at 4000 rpm. Why?

No boost or AFR graph, PT just don't do them.
To be honest I don't (I wont pretend to know much about turbos) know and I wouldn't say it was big drop, well I certainly can't feel anything.

Regarding ambient temps I thought they were quit good, not tooo low. With around 20deg it means I can play knowing that my car was set up in a safe temp zone 3/4 seasons of the year and who wants to rag a turbo in the summer.

Anyway time for a shower and then a little drive. Cheers. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: OO7] #466004
24/10/2007 16:37
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Its not a big dip anyways, its just slightly lower torque. It will give you the feeling of a second wind in that gear tho ;\)

Ross

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #466059
24/10/2007 17:51
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Will you go to another RR to check AFR?


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Freddan72] #466136
24/10/2007 19:13
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Freddan,

I have to ask why mate?

I tune to a certain AFR, just wondered after spending £450 you would want to go to another RR to have it checked again?
That would be like going to a garage for an oil change, then booking it into another garage to check the level \:D
Obviously no worries with it happening but why put doubt into anyones mind and make them spend money they dont have to?
Roger from Power Fiat has been doing health checks on cars before they come over to us which i think is a very good idea, but a health check afterwards lol

Cheers

Rob

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #466152
24/10/2007 19:37
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Nice result mate.

Rob - great to see you finding the time to post, I know how busy you chaps get. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #466159
24/10/2007 19:49
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 Originally Posted By: tweenierob
Freddan,

I have to ask why mate?

I tune to a certain AFR, just wondered after spending £450 you would want to go to another RR to have it checked again?
That would be like going to a garage for an oil change, then booking it into another garage to check the level \:D
Obviously no worries with it happening but why put doubt into anyones mind and make them spend money they dont have to?
Roger from Power Fiat has been doing health checks on cars before they come over to us which i think is a very good idea, but a health check afterwards lol

Cheers

Rob

As a costumer I always want to know the result and that includes the AFR value and if it fluctuates with different boost settings. If you don´t tell the costumer what the AFR is then the costumer need to go to another RR and get the result. Or maybe 007 knows and he doesn´t want to tell us?? \:\)


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Freddan72] #466176
24/10/2007 20:23
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freddan,

PT do tell the customer what AFR they are running at the highest boost setting, they just dont have facilities to print the reading.

PTS never had facilities to print AFR ir i remember correctly.

Aslong as the mapper knows the safe limits, and has checked for DET (rob does both) then there really is no issue.

Customers running stock internals should really avoid running higher levels of ignition advance and boost, and sacrafice 20bhp for an increased safety margin, particularly for those that are not too knowledgeable of turbo cars, i.e charge temps/Fuelling etc.

Rob does however take this into account and im confident that his mapping is spot on, for a good safety and performance compromise.

\:\)


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Rog20VT] #466183
24/10/2007 20:30
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PT can print AFR and boost traces, just need to ask for it. The AFR is normally around 11.3-11.5 on max boost but you should always get a power run and AFR reading for lower boost settings as different fueling tables would need to be adjusted... unless of course max boost is your only setting ;\)


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Flea] #466815
25/10/2007 15:55
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Rob did tell me the AFR but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. My head has to remember sooo much as it is (wake up, shower, eat breakfast, go to work, spend all day on fccuk.org ;\) , come home and sleep. I'm sure there's something else! ) that trying to remember something that really makes no difference if I know or not almost impossible.

Anyway 1.4bar has had its day of fun (and what a day it was, 5th gear is incredible! \:D ) now she stays on 1.25bar.

Anyway thanks again, Chris. (Sh!t, breath!) \:o

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: OO7] #466817
25/10/2007 15:58
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Why not run it at 1.4 bar all the time? U know its safe.

Ross

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #466897
25/10/2007 17:13
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I agree with Ross - why spend all that money having the car mapped to 1.4 bar and then turn it down.

My car spends 90% of its time on the top setting on the Blitz - I regularly see 1.6 bar on my daily commute.

There are only two instances when I turn it down - carrying nervous passengers or when I'm on a long motorway trip and I want to save fuel (can get over 30mpg at base boost)


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Nigel] #466900
25/10/2007 17:14
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Rob - if you're reading this, I'll be booking in soon(ish) for a remap - I now have forged rods, so I can let you get as much torque as you want, rather than holding it back to 330 - 340


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Nigel] #467362
26/10/2007 02:02
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007 - you still have a v-band adaptor right? Also, are you still on the 3bar FPR?

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #467478
26/10/2007 03:54
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Nice result Chris, hope I get similar in a few weeks \:\)

My only concern is Rog advises that I don't need the fuel pump mod. I want to believe him, but just feel I should not leave this to chance.


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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: Mark_S] #467520
26/10/2007 05:09
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Some cars need it - some dont. Either way if anything is wrong PT will tell you when they are mapping. You can test this yourself by measuring the voltage at the pump when the car comes on boost - if it drops off then IMO you need the wiring mod.

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #468314
27/10/2007 12:41
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I'm still running the standard 3bar FPR and NO wiring mod I do have the Walbro pump though.

Point taken on the boost setting but on the same note why spend £300 on an EBC if you're not going to turn it up/down when needed, surly a £20 PRV would have done?

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: OO7] #468326
27/10/2007 14:03
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EBC's hold boost better to the redline and can bring boost in more progressively.

when i'm driving slow i have mine on 0.9bar, it's much easier to drive as it doesn't feel like its going to come on to boost all the time. and when it does come on boost its not as manic.

my aquamist is also set to only come on at 1bar+ so another reason for me to not to leave it on full boost all the time. or i'd be going through 10 gallons of methanol a month \:P

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