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Re: Webbo's & Mark_K's rolling road figures..... [Re: ] #491900
26/11/2007 14:42
26/11/2007 14:42

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Isn't a Set Gain of 0.65bar very very low? Surely thats not utilising the turbo ptential you have much at all?

Chris

Re: Webbo's & Mark_K's rolling road figures..... [Re: ] #491915
26/11/2007 14:59
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My previous settings, for 1.3 bar were:
Gain 17%
Set Gain 1.20
Set 52%

This gave me full boost around 3500rpm.

Changing the Set Gain from 1.2 to 0.40 made no difference.

I have now changed to
Gain 22%
Set Gain (irrelevant, swapped between 0.4 and 1.2)
Set 52%

This gives me full boost around 3000rpm.

Re: Webbo's & Mark_K's rolling road figures..... [Re: ] #491961
26/11/2007 16:08
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 Originally Posted By: Chrisbp
Isn't a Set Gain of 0.65bar very very low? Surely thats not utilising the turbo ptential you have much at all?

Chris


This is the thing I don't understand!! \:\?

The graph still look ok and mine has a broader torque range etc, so what is the Set Gain actually doing?! To me, it seems that the turbo starts working as soon as the boost hits the base level of the actuator where as with Webbo's, it doesn't start working until it reaches the 1.2bar that his is set to, which obviously takes longer to achieve. What are the adverse affects of having a low set gain if any?!

Cheers,

Mark

Re: Webbo's & Mark_K's rolling road figures..... [Re: ] #492405
27/11/2007 02:59
27/11/2007 02:59

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Mark - have a look at what I read, it might help?

 Originally Posted By: Crappy Greddy Manual that Doesn't Tally with the Unit

"Start boost (AKA Set Gain) basically adjusts when to start opening the wastegate".

- if the Start Boost value is closer to the Set Boost (AKA Set) then spool up will be faster
- but if the Start Boost is too close to the Set Boost it will cause a boost spike.


What I dont get is how the Start Boost can be close to the Set boost, one is like 0.4-1.2 the other is 50% or whatever so how can they be close to eachother. Have I missed something \:\?

Re: Webbo's & Mark_K's rolling road figures..... [Re: ] #492605
27/11/2007 14:58
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 Originally Posted By: Mark_K
To me, it seems that the turbo starts working as soon as the boost hits the base level of the actuator where as with Webbo's, it doesn't start working until it reaches the 1.2bar that his is set to, which obviously takes longer to achieve


Mark I think you might have it upside down mate ;\) The turbo will start working immediately because the wastegate will be closed until the Greddy tells it to open, therefore I dont think "Start Boost / Set Gain" will affect spoolup.

Here's my (limited) understanding- the Start Boost / Set Gain is designed to overrule the actuator setting so if you have a 0.6bar actuator, you could put the Start Boost to 1.2 and it should keep the wastegate closed until that pressure, thereby allowing you to hold more boost later on. Maybe that's why yours, set at 0.65 or something, is tailing off later in the rev range?

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