what is a nice drop for the car to sit nice using 18' wheels, also did i read right you can use both 16vt and 20vt obviously for the 20vt turbo coop, if so is it ok too and whats the difference

also the front springs measure at 14.5 inches, so any idea what that drop would be

Bilstein shocks & Eibach springs, drops about 30mm

so you say about a 30mm drop with 18's, when ive looked theres alot of 35mm about, does anyone know what drop the spring will be if its measured 14.5inch, that is the front

Mine's lowered by 35mm on PI springs, looks good and it's not too low. Never grounded on any speed bumps and the LE bumper and skirts will clear a standard size kerb.

What front springs measure at 14.5 inches?

It's not really going to be possible to determine their loaded length unless you know what the spring rate is....

just found some for sale ,new cheap too, hasnt the box and doesnt know the drop there were from a 16vt, he just measured the high of them, useless i know, was a long shot

Go for Eibach springs tried and tested on here,i believe

weres the cheapest place for them

Don't know if it's the cheapest place but Alternative Autos is where I bought mine...

Try www.balancemotorsport.co.uk they do the eibach springs and the Bilsteins on there, i have looked but havnt bought any yet. I have heard a few people they give to much of a hard ride, can anyone add more to that PLEASE

Eibach on mine, on standard dampers - they've been on 3 successive Coupes now and look cool each time - only issue is getting the car onto a recovery truck!!!!!!!!

DBP

How does yours feel with Eibachs on standard dampers, are they lowered ones. If so was wondering whether they manage bumps ok, and potholes????

Really quite a good ride - firm but not crashy - combined with the strut brace which you get with the later cars, the whole chassis feels quite tight. The standard dampers do not need to be shortened to fit, as once the top mount is in place, the springs are already in compression, and whilst I'm not a damper expert, I would guess that they are engineered with their own internal end stops, regardless of spring initial length. I drive 100 miles a day to work and back, so I'm quite discerning....!

Bumps are fine, and I've not really had a problem with potholes - any performance car hates them anyway, so I try to avoid them - my integrale really crashes in potholes on the standard suspension, and I keep thinking "wheels cost serious cash..."
I'm sure Bilsteins would be an improvement, but if you're doing things bit by bit, it's maybe something you could do later having tried standard dampers.

Cheers

DBP

Thanks for the info j999evo, i wanted to know because my top mounts have gone at the moment and where my car is o standard dampers its crashing through bumps and potholes and sounds horrible, and feels horrible, so when i have got the top mounts done i want to lower my car slightly, the 30mm of the eibachs is sufficient enough, i dont like cars to be slammed to the floor, plus im getting the piu bumper and dont want to take that off on a speed bump.

I just wanted to know how the eibachs felt over standard springs, then it gives me an idea if the bilsteins on top will make it a bit better, plus adding performance.

right them springs from a 16vt im on about might take my chances, they are lowering springs but dont know how much by, the make is kilen i think, swedish, am i right its ok to use 16vt ones on a 20vt

My old setup (Eibach springs + std dampers) was CRASHY, though I did not realize how crashy until I got the Bilstein B6's.... 100% better.

anyone know the 16vt & 20vt situation tho

Shouldn't matter!

ok thanx

just won these. thought id give them ago as was cheap u never no

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my experiment lol