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Need Amp - must be small #437835
18/09/2007 17:33
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Hi

Had a new head unit and I'm now looking at replacing the rears.

I'm going to go the 6x9 route for the rears and I already have new infinity's for the fronts.

I want the front's and rears driven by an amp.

However I do not want this visible, is there any way of positioning an amp some where it will not be seen ? Would a small amp fit behind the rear panels where the speakers go ?

If so which amp ?

Cheers guys

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #437850
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Probably but it would be a nightmare to adjust.

You could try the boot area, the left hand side behind the boot lining has some space.


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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: sugerbear] #441533
24/09/2007 04:40
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i'm sure it would be posible, but as sugarbear has said adjustment would be a pain to get back out.
Amp suggestion, genesis profile series, small 7 compact good power

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #442469
25/09/2007 16:33
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Could you not mount one behind the carpet in the boot (where the rear quarters are) It would then not be visible but still access to adjust.

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #446648
01/10/2007 05:20
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Got an amp, JBL, smallish foot print so will be having a go at hiding it somewhere.

The Infinity speakers I bought were out of stock,

I was offered a free upgrade which I took http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-jbl-t595_p-22431.htm

However, these speakers are huge, will these still in the rear ?

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #446779
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 Originally Posted By: m4tty1
Got an amp, JBL, smallish foot print so will be having a go at hiding it somewhere.

The Infinity speakers I bought were out of stock,

I was offered a free upgrade which I took http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-jbl-t595_p-22431.htm

However, these speakers are huge, will these still in the rear ?


Should do, there is plenty of room but if they are big and heavy mount them on some mdf first.


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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: sugerbear] #450228
05/10/2007 20:41
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Cars in bits now apart from the drivers seat.

Got both the speakers in, it is a tightish fit as the JBL's are massive.

Got a Farenheit Class X amp going in tonight to run them, only place I could find to mount it is screwed to the back seats.

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #575122
28/03/2008 17:33
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Keeping with the flavour of this thread...if the amp is powered directly (looked at relevant thread) from the battery does it constantly take power and drain the battery? I have used the Ciggy lighter for the HU and obviously don't want the same issue with the amp. Apologies if this is another daft question.

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #575152
28/03/2008 18:19
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Aint most set ups run directly from the battery? Shouldnt be no problem. As soon as the HU is switched off the amp looses remote signal there for no power light. May be wrong but ive never woken up to a dead battery \:\)

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #575192
28/03/2008 19:09
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Isn't it a bad idea to stuff an amp into a confined space, or cover it with carpet as it will need to dissipate the heat it generates.


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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: mattB] #575197
28/03/2008 19:17
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Yes very true mattb especially if your running the amps fairly hard on a hot summers day, they tend to cut out. Screw into the back of the seat tends to be the best place.

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #575242
28/03/2008 19:48
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 Originally Posted By: sweetride
Aint most set ups run directly from the battery? Shouldnt be no problem. As soon as the HU is switched off the amp looses remote signal there for no power light. May be wrong but ive never woken up to a dead battery \:\)


Correct.




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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: Robin_Banks] #575259
28/03/2008 20:14
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if you dont want the amp visible in the boot, there is space for a small ish amp behind the 60% side of the rear seat, inside the cockpit between the seat and the bulkhead.

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #575264
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Alpine's PDX range are designed for this type of install...

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #575347
28/03/2008 21:39
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 Originally Posted By: sweetride
Aint most set ups run directly from the battery? Shouldnt be no problem. As soon as the HU is switched off the amp looses remote signal there for no power light. May be wrong but ive never woken up to a dead battery \:\)


On the alpine range of amps there is a blue wire (remote) that is connected to the amp. If you wire it up it will turn the amp off if the head unit is off.


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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: sugerbear] #575395
28/03/2008 22:28
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Thanks all, I have decided to start from scratch and re-wire for all speakers inc sub and fit an amp. Will also carry out the 6x9 change and sound proof the door/quarter panel. Just wish I had a clear warm garage to do it all in!!

Stupid question No2, to amp the fronts, backs and sub...do I need a 4 or six channel amp?

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #575421
28/03/2008 22:46
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I would run a 4ch amp for the 4 speakers and a separate mono amp for the sub.




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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: Robin_Banks] #575739
29/03/2008 07:42
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Yes as Robin_Banks explains, i run the same set up. Will probably need 4 gauge power cable too ;\)

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #576115
30/03/2008 01:37
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Another change of plan, have installed the Amp under the passenger seat and its only a two channel Alpine. But I have really enjoyed the install so far, with only the Drivers side to do I feel confident that tomorrow will be a little easier than today...

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #576643
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Then you'll obviously need another 2ch amp for the rear speakers, probably an even better way to do it - the more amps the better \:D

Just be sure that the amp isn't getting too hot under the seat, especially in the summer. There isn't a lot of room there and I've had problems in the past with installing amps in confined spaces.




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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: Robin_Banks] #576995
31/03/2008 14:47
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Well it's all done... thanks for the advice chaps I have left the cables all long enough to reach the boot if heat becomes an issue (Looking at the space it probably will). Very happy with the sound but have realised it's not just a case of plonking it in, I now have to start twiddling ;\) to get the sound just right.
Next purchase will be to prepare for the back speaker install and full sound proofing.
Rock on the Summer!

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #577065
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You'll be tweaking forever! \:D




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Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: Robin_Banks] #577081
31/03/2008 16:58
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I was very suprised when i fitted my system that coupe dosn't rattle that much. Only sound proofed the doors and that was fine.

Re: Need Amp - must be small [Re: ] #577164
31/03/2008 18:22
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I have read loads on here ref the sound proofing and intend to do the doors and rear quarter panel area (backseats) as well.

Think I'll leave the tweaking until the back speakers are fitted, they are seriously letting the cars sound down at the min but think my wife would take a knife to me if I spend any more money on it...

Thanks again.


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