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Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? #703408
06/11/2008 13:22
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Just been offered a Boxster for £5k from a friend, i have a 20VT Moon Grey Plus, all serviced via Powerfiat, 110k on teh clokc, goes well, no problems, but im tempted by the Porsche ( 1998 PORSCHE BOXSTER 2.5 2dr Roadster ), what's your thoughts, is it much cop agaist a trusty Coop? I haven't driven the Boxster yet... or am i just getting a badge?

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703414
06/11/2008 13:28
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The Coop is quicker but cheaper running costs and more fun but u dont have that lovely build quality

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703415
06/11/2008 13:29
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my personal opinion is that if I bought a boxster it would have to be the 3.2s. 2.5 is too slow.

7.5 to 60 and top speed of 148mph.


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Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703416
06/11/2008 13:29
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Badge.



Ex Grigio Moon 20VT Plus
Ex 350Z
Now Aston Martin Vantage

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: MrCooper] #703417
06/11/2008 13:31
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Go have a drive! I haven't driven one but wouldn't dismiss it until I had! If you are asking this question, that says to me you are considering changing cars anyway!

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: MrCooper] #703418
06/11/2008 13:31
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i must admit i would be tempted depending on milage ,condition etc, But a 2.5 boxter will be SLOW

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Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703422
06/11/2008 13:38
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A Boxster of that age will be showing more signs of age than your coupe I would say. It will look older, the coop in moon silver still looks good and quite fresh, but a phase 1 Boxster looks old, the interior hasn't aged well either.

It will be dynamically better than your car but will be slower, although on twisty A roads point to point it may be quicker, but it will feel slower, no turbo punch.

I also heard that roofs have issues of leaking and cracking on the first phase Boxsters.

I would say you are buying the badge and that if you want a Boxster you really want a 3.2 and not the 2.5

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: JimO] #703426
06/11/2008 13:41
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I just test drove this the other day for a friend and yes, the 2.5 is SLOWWW. Accept nothing lower than a 2.7

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: Kelv27] #703430
06/11/2008 13:43
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Boxster for me! for 5K, Bargain



Coopless!
Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: pinin_prestatyn] #703434
06/11/2008 13:46
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Yeah £5k does seem very cheap. For the badge i'd say go for it..you're just gonna miss the power though..

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: Kelv27] #703440
06/11/2008 13:48
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too cheap possibly?

Why's he selling? Full Service etc?

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: Hyperlink] #703445
06/11/2008 13:56
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5k is about right for a 2.5, early car and porsche upgraded the engine to a 2.7 not long after.

3.2's are going for about 10k for a cheap one.


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Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: sugerbear] #703446
06/11/2008 13:57
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Yup, its just right for an early 2.5. It will be like buying a 16v coupe though and then coming up against all the 20v and turbo boys, you will just be laughed at \:D

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: JimO] #703454
06/11/2008 14:07
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sometimes its 'better the devil you know'...however I would rather spend my money on the Porsche. Just depends how you drive really, 7.5 to 60 is fairly rapid and you also get to put the roof down!

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: JimO] #703459
06/11/2008 14:13
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 Originally Posted By: JimO
Yup, its just right for an early 2.5. It will be like buying a 16v coupe though and then coming up against all the 20v and turbo boys, you will just be laughed at \:D


Barnacle will be along shortly...






To be laughed at \:D


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Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: sugerbear] #703461
06/11/2008 14:18
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Year: 1997
Manufacturer: Porsche
Name Boxster 986 2.5
Weight: 1242
Transmission: Manual
BHP: 201
Peak BHP (rpm): 6000
Torque: 181
Peak Torque (rpm): 4500
BHP/Tonne: 162
Lbs/ft/tonne: 146
0-30mph: 2.2
0-60mph: 6.5
0-70mph: 7.7
0-100mph: 18
30-70mph: 5.5
30-100mph: 15.8
60-100mph: 11.5
0-400m: 15.3
0-400m Terminal: 99
0-1000m: 28.5
0-1000m Terminal: 115
Top Speed: 155

You're looking at Escort Cossy, Volvo 850 T5 R, Fiat Coupé 16v Turbo performance when rolling.


F****** b****** thing...
Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: Trappy] #703467
06/11/2008 14:21
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Thanks for all the advice, i think im going to stick with my Coop, i agree, its look great still in Moon Grey, and im not happy about the 2.5 being so slow against my current 20VT, so the Coop stays, thanks everyone!

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703490
06/11/2008 14:43
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if you want a badge, pick one up on ebay for pennies and keep the coupe

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: Trappy] #703494
06/11/2008 14:45
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 Originally Posted By: Trappy
Fiat Coupé 16v Turbo performance when rolling.


Nothing wrong with that if mapped ;\) lol!

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703500
06/11/2008 14:50
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In case you're interested I did a back to back comparison a couple of years ago with a friend's 2.5 - as said above the coop is quite a bit quicker in a straight line, and felt even more so due to the turbo "kick".

Handling on the Boxster was in a totally different league though, as was steering feel, braking, the gearshift and pedal feel - Porsche certainly know how to put a car together. Interior dated though.

Sounded good at higher revs - closing on 3 figures in 3rd with the top down = nice.

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703501
06/11/2008 14:54
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Cheers Neal, im still pretty swayed towards keeping my Coop, maybe i could have both! Hmmmm, well it is almost Xmas aftre all, just need some more parking space, doh!

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: sugerbear] #703506
06/11/2008 14:59
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 Originally Posted By: sugerbear

Barnacle will be along shortly...


Who? \:P


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Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: barnacle] #703518
06/11/2008 15:10
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I actually made the choice between the Fiat and the Porsche when I bought my 20vt plus from new. I chose the Fiat because it's faster, more beautiful, rarer, cheaper to run / maintain, and more practical.

I would only pick the Porsche for the brand (which for me actually is a reason NOT to do it) and maybe build quality (though that has to be confirmed...).


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Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: barnacle] #703519
06/11/2008 15:10
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id have that boxster..fantastic handling, great build quality..and lets face it. you dont give a stuff about what other people think anyway do ya??...you drive a coupe fiat!!!!....i am a porsche fan and the boxster is on my shopping list for the future..

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703536
06/11/2008 15:31
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Boxster *IF* you can live with the lack of straight line speed and only having 2 seats.

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703545
06/11/2008 15:41
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I would rather spend a bit more and get a TVR than have a 2.5 Boxter. Yes it is well made and handles well, but its not that quick and its a hairdressers car.

Thats just my opinion anyway. \:D

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703548
06/11/2008 15:47
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I thought the boxster engine internals where a lot stronger than the coupes so increasing the power (dependant on cash) was easier?

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703553
06/11/2008 16:02
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it would be more difficult to increase the power though as it is NA, even if the internals were up to it.

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703575
06/11/2008 16:41
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 Originally Posted By: symonh2000
I would rather spend a bit more and get a TVR than have a 2.5 Boxter. Yes it is well made and handles well, but its not that quick and its a hairdressers car.

Thats just my opinion anyway. \:D


Oh, I totally agree with that - £7-8k for a decent Chimaera these days if you look around, and that's a fine fine car - bucketloads of character and lots faster than the Boxster (the base spec 4.0 is quicker than a 20vt), far more stylish interior and way more space. And that's ignoring the stunning noise.


Example

As for handling, well \:o about covers it, especially in the wet.

Re: Fiat Coupe or Porche Boxster ? [Re: ] #703623
06/11/2008 18:54
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Boxster is a nice car, driven an S a few times but would always pick the coop over it any day. Build quality is great but i didnt like the handling on it at all! Doesnt behave like a normal rear wheel drive car when push and things get out of hand, snap over steer and you need to be seriously quick on the rack if you want to catch it...scared the bloody life out of me when the back end went for the first time! Your coop looks awesome in the moon grey anyway! stick with it \:\)

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