I'm only givng you an honest review Ben, I don't understand why your taking it so personally ?
I've got a set of FKs in my garage that I removed because I didn't like them, however if you like them then enjoy them.

How much do you want for the FKs then Jimbo?

Benny, you and me know that FKs' with Bravo top mounts are just fine, and it was Jimbo that pointed us in that direction. However Jimbo's needs (and those of a few others) are more sophisticated, that's fine, each to their own.

For some, the standard suspension is OK, for others a set of billies on standard springs are OK, for a lot of people einbach springs and billies are the best, costing around the £400-500 mark (maybe some bits 2nd hand).

Any more than that and it's coilovers, starting at FK', then KW's and Ledas and Osrav's...where you can spend £1000 or more too much for me, but as I said, OK for others. The FK's are "budget" coilovers that are crap IMHO with the supplied top mount, ride is far too harsh and crashy, although I never found it bouncy, maybe I had it lowered too much But with Bravo mounts it's much better, and I don't get any of that negative behavoir that Jimbo mentioned. Maybe I just don't push it hard enough, maybe Jimbo never had the FK's + bravo mounts on long enough.

So good luck and thanjs to all those people prepared to spend a lot of time testing out alternatives for us In my case I joined the first GB for FK's but by the time I eventually got around to fitting them most people had found that they weren't happy, but I stuck with them and then fitted the bravo top mounts, so much better.

Im not having a pop at Jimbo thats me being grumpy

I agree that other peoples suspension needs are different which are fine.

Also like you i cant really justify spending 1k or more on other types of coilover.

Well since fitting mine about two weeks ago w/bravo top mounts and finally geting the tracking and camber adjusted to -1.2deg yesterday, i was very impressed with how the coupe corners and performs
like yourself Dave i hav'nt experianced any bounceyness, this could be due to me only lowering it by the min of 30mm or me replacing both front inserts

Ben

I need new suspension on my baby and missed the boat with the Bilstein increase.

I was going to go for Billies with standard springs. Would these ones be just as good (non adjustable ones)?

cheers

Jimbo

The link to Zagota Lancia is broken

Is there another stockist?

Try THIS

Gareth

Has anyone tried the non adjustable ones with standard springs?

I don't think anyone on here has, but if you do, don't forget to do a write up!

I'm going for the adjustables, I'm just a control freak!

G

Spee have you got your KGAs on yet?
If so how are they?

Anyone fitted the KTAs ?

Would love to know as I,m going to chat with them next week about my (delayed) suspension referb.

No Tim, I've hopefully secured some coil overs, but we'll see, I haven't got my sticky mits on them as yet.

Gareth

I have the adjustable Osravs, bought from Zagatos 3 years ago. The car handles very well, and neutral. Although its firm, its compliant. Normal ride height maybe 1cm lower. Just about to put Eibach Pro springs mainly for look.

OK,after another chat with Clive at Zagato I've ordered the adjustable Osravs today.
There is going to be a few weeks wait as the Italian factorys shut for August Holidays.
I'm going to run them on standard springs and will post my thoughts when I get to try them.
Tim

My Eibachs are on, and in conjunction with the Osravs, I'd say its a bit bouncy for me. As the shocks are adjustable, I guess hardening them up might work. I'd be interested in talking to Zagato to see whether they offer a suspension balancing service. They emailed me back saying their mechanic is on holiday (this must be the aforementioned Clive?).

Can you stiffen your damp/rebound settings and post a feedback after that?

I'm willing to let go my almost new set of billies for the adjustable Osravs, but only if they stop the bouncy ride that I'm feeling with the Bilstein/eibach combo

Turn the damping up

Forgive my ignorance, but can this be done with the allen key while the car is standing or does it need to be fully jacked up with no weight on the wheels?

I had some Konis on my Lancia Delta HF and just adjusted them with the car standing.

I hope Osravs work that way as well. Unfortunately, for what I know from Jimbo it only adjusts the fronts that way. The rears have to be removed for adjustment because you can't access them with the allen key, right?

Nonetheless, it seems to me that you can kill bouncing from rising damp/rebound on the fronts only and let the rears a little softer, thus preventing lift off oversteer

I've just been under the car, and at the back, you can access the nipple (ooh er) for the gas/air, but can't see the screw adjustment at all. The front can't see a thing as the cars too low.

I'd really prefer to get the car checked out by a professional, as who knows whether the current gas pressure is correct in the dampers to start!

I'll wait for the guy at Zagato to get back and discuss with him. Alternatively, can anyone recommend another garage that knows how to set up suspension on these cars, or indeed should any good sports car suspension tuner be ok?

The rears have to be off because the adjuster is on top.
The front adjusters are also on top, so you can access them easily. Just open the bonnet.

Jimbo will probably arrive and can post a much more detailed info I presume

Addict, I can call you if you PM me your number.

The fronts are adjusted under the bonnet at the top mount where the damper strut comes through the top mount.

There should be an allen head on the top of the damper strut.

Put your allen key in this and turn them fully anti-clockwise until it stops, that should be them at fully soft.

You then need to take her out for a spin down a nice bit of road and keep turning the allen head clockwise (the same amount for each damper) until you find a nice setting your happy with.
Do it in one full rotation at first and then you can fine tune them in half turns.

The rears are adjusted up at the top of the damper, the damper needs to be dropped for that or have fingers like ET.

Zagato should do it for you seeing as they sold you the kit.

I'd just set them at half way through thier adjustment range and leave them at that.

Hi Jimbo
Thanks for your expertiies on this

Some mate here on the forum is running with Osravs and he post that half way on rears is too hard for road use.

IIRC, he posted that he's running on the 4th setup from softest.
Well... I think it's a matter of personal taste here

That some mate should be Paul:

"Having to adjust the rears by removing them is a pain, I set them mid to start with 10 out of 20 "clicks" and they were far to hard for the road, I have now set them at 4 clicks off the soft setting from memory"

Thank you for that Matijn

I just checked my fronts and they are set fully clockwise, which I think means they are at their hardest?! As I said feels like a stiff pogo stick (is that bouncy?)

If this is the only adjustment I can make, i'll try loosening off a few turns and see if that makes a difference...

PS: Jimbo, I have pm'ed you with my number.

As I said in my PM, I was working off memory, go with the arrow direction on the damper (the opposite of what I said)

The osrav's aren't bouncy so they are either on fully soft as we think they are according to the +/- arrows or they are on so hard the car is bouncing over the bumps with only the tyres for travel

Hi Jimbo,

do you drive these KGA's with OSRAV springs, or an other brand? I am up to order the KGA's but am undecided for the springs yet. (OSRAV/Eibach/Apex?)

I don't Martijn but I used to own a coupe with them fitted.

I had the KGA's with Eibach springs, the Eibachs are a little too firm for my liking but they are the best spring on the market if you want to lower your coupe.

I didn't know osrav made springs, it may be worth giving them a try ?

Just to say thanks to Jim for his help. I checked the full travel on my front shocks and its 5.5 full 360 degree turns from top to bottom. I set them at 3 turns which is just over half way hard. Feels nice, but will try out for a few days and decide if go harder still.

And bouncing??!