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Re: Bilstein Review and lots of thoughts on suspension
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15/04/2006 02:26
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zak
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Yella, good to hear you're happy with them. Looks like I'm gonna have to get some now!
Any chance of a pic? Side view would be good!
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Re: Bilstein Review and lots of thoughts on suspension
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15/04/2006 04:57
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did anyone tryed kony with lowering springs?
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Re: Bilstein Review and lots of thoughts on suspension
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15/04/2006 17:01
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Just to add, i bought set up (5) from cosmo, and i have no complaints, the handling is superb but like he states the ride could be smoother. i have the fronts on the softest and it still handles well in my book and ride isnt far off standard, but my old standard set up wasnt new so was probably crashy anyway so isnt a far comparision. Just thought i would share that  , and i wouldnt trade the lowered look for anything Paul R
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Re: Bilstein Review and lots of thoughts on suspension
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15/04/2006 17:18
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suspension is about trade-offs.
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Re: Bilstein Review and lots of thoughts on suspension
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16/04/2006 16:12
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I had my fist instance of Coupe power oversteer. Big roundabout, powering round it, back end decided that following the front was boring, so decided to go its own way.
Not a big moment, and it was very controllable, but up to that point, the front end was firmly planted. It really did feel like a RWD car. Possibly time to drop the rear tyre pressures a little.
As the good doctor mentions above, the rear ARB is a mod that you instantly know was money well spent.
As for it only being of use on track - I disagree - my daily commute is now far more fun (admittedly includes a good few miles of twisty B road)
Out of the MANY mods I've done, I would rate this as in the top five on the "improvement per £" scale.
totally agree,I don`t think about the front end drifting wide anymore `cause.................the back end does it first now  .
was Paul S,now just paul...Member since Oct 2000,Coupe may be FATALLY injured - :(oh no it's not 
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Thoughts on suspension
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27/04/2006 00:22
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Hmm... Just looking through a catalogue on my computer, and found that Sachs makes dampers. Anyone tried them?
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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29/04/2006 17:04
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Just thought Id update this. I think Ive finally found a suspension solution that works for me: Setup: Bilstein B6 Sports shocks/ Eibach 20VT springs Ride: Stiffer than standard springs but I'm not finding any harshness that others have reported. I ran the rears Eibachs only for a few days and didnt feel any reduction in ride quality at all. Then I fitted the fronts and it tightened the front up no end. The Bilsteins seem to work better with the Eibachs. Overall, the ride feels sorted, no wallowing and like it should have been like this in the first place. Handling: Very much an extension of the good work from the Bilsteins. The new Eibach springs allow much power to be transmitted in corners. Really progressive control and great feel of where the limits are. Very pleased with the results.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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29/04/2006 17:50
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He's happy at last then, I had hoped you'd find perfection after all your hard work
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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29/04/2006 17:56
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Very good to hear that as that is exactly the setup I will be running in a few weeks time!
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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29/04/2006 22:50
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Just thought Id update this. I think Ive finally found a suspension solution that works for me:
Setup: Bilstein B6 Sports shocks/ Eibach 20VT springs
Ride: Stiffer than standard springs but I'm not finding any harshness that others have reported. I ran the rears Eibachs only for a few days and didnt feel any reduction in ride quality at all. Then I fitted the fronts and it tightened the front up no end. The Bilsteins seem to work better with the Eibachs. Overall, the ride feels sorted, no wallowing and like it should have been like this in the first place.
Handling: Very much an extension of the good work from the Bilsteins. The new Eibach springs allow much power to be transmitted in corners. Really progressive control and great feel of where the limits are.
Very pleased with the results.
I run the exact same set up Cosmo, and agree with you 100%. 
But you need to get some uprated ARB's...you'll be amazed with them. 
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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30/04/2006 20:36
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I know some people are running their 20VTs on Bilsteins with Eibach 16VT springs at the front.
What's the benefit (if any) from using the 16VT springs on a 20VT?
Ta.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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30/04/2006 20:43
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I believe they offer a slightly softer ride.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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30/04/2006 20:48
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A softer ride would be a plus if it means more comfort over pot-holes etc. But are there any downsides to fitting the 16VT springs rather than the 20VT ones?
Have you tried this set up Matty?
Thanks.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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30/04/2006 21:06
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Its not a set up I've tried I'm afraid, although I think Jimbo has, possibly Cosmo too.
I don't think there was any downsides to fitting them.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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30/04/2006 21:52
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the 16vt ones are progressively wound so feel softer to start with
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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01/05/2006 10:05
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Tell me if I'm wrong but Bilstein doesn't make BTS shocks for the coop (at least in my country they aren't in the Bilstein catalogue  ) Are you running Eibachs with the same height as the coop springs then? 
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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01/05/2006 15:33
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But you need to get some uprated ARB's...you'll be amazed with them.
roughly how much would they be and where from?
@ paulr - any lowered pics?
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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01/05/2006 15:59
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does anyone drives with the KYB's and 20vt eibach springs? I may be running these next month...
anyone?
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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01/05/2006 17:30
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But you need to get some uprated ARB's...you'll be amazed with them.
roughly how much would they be and where from?
@ paulr - any lowered pics?
Thanks
I was around £350 for the pair. I got them straight from Eibach, they took just over two months to arrive.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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01/05/2006 18:34
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have you tried eibach or novitec springs allround? I mean.. also at the front???
I want to drive with the full KYB set en the full EIBACH spring set mounted all together..
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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02/05/2006 00:26
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No Coen I haven't tried with Eibachs all round
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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10/06/2006 03:18
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i tryed my new set-up today- kony's with mad springs
the ride is perfcet to my tast-firm but not harsh at all,the handling is all most neutral with the back stiffer than the front{adj }some understeer on full power and oversteer on demand,i must say it's a new car and much better then befor
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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02/08/2006 15:01
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Just digging up this thread after it was linked I'm thinking of tidying up the coops handling now that the power 'enough'  Looks like a lot of good work has gone into finding a good set-up chaps, well done. To summarise, a good set-up seems to be as follows. How much are all of these parts? Bilstein dampers £150?? Eibach springs Eibach ARBs £350?? I've got a few numbers from the thread, please change these if you have found or know of lower prices chaps  Also i remember talk of a suspension component refresh pack that was available somewhere... After 40,000 miles this should be done right? In addition to the above what else should be changed and how much does this cost? In total am i looking at £1000?
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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02/08/2006 15:19
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The cheapest you'll get the dampers is £370 from fastjjs in the parts for sale section.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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02/08/2006 15:46
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Sorry the £150 was meant for the springs So Eibach Springs (16vT version) £150 Bilstein Damnpers £370 Eibach ARBs £350 Just found this on AA Bilsten Shock absorbers £400 Eibach Spring Kits (3cm Lower) £144.95 Eibach Front Anti RollBar Kit £239.95 Front Suspension repair kit £52.95 Guess that gives a rough idea.... amazing what you find when you look what about this rear ARB?
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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02/08/2006 17:07
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Also factor in the cost of fitting, especially for the ARBs. By all accounts, it's an ar5e of a job.
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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03/08/2006 17:52
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Just to clarify are Novitech springs indeed just rebranded eibachs?
I have a potential seller and want to make sure i get the right ones. People on other forums have said that they are the same but anyone here know for sure?
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Re: Thoughts on suspension
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03/08/2006 23:38
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whats the part number for the bilstein b6? cant seem to find any which were made for the coupe 20vt
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