to be honest audison i recon with street wire and stinger make some of the best cables, i even use audison speaker cable off the reel for my home audio and also there rca leads

Ok it's coming out at the weekend, it should only take a couple of hours to remove it and get hold of some decent stuff.

hey ag totally agree, now tell him how much proper rca costs lol i.e streetwires zn9 imho the best around at the mo,2ch 5m cheap at £100

That's wasting money imho. Middle of the road costs I can handle but not £100 for a cable!
Try and remember it's going into a coupe not a double glazed merc where outside noise is reduced.

ok ill try and remember that lol but then it could be debated in that case all the more reason for quality components, follow ag's rule of thumb tips and you should be fine ,also don’t stuff over length wire/cable into/behind places as this can cause coil like resistance making whining noises.

Hey Mule I'm not trying to be clever, i kind of know you get what you pay for etc but i have tried to buy smart and really shopped around. To be honest I should have mine fitted but i actually enjoy the installation.

I no mate all credit to ya, just gather tips/info and take your time,also try and keep the out of sight installation bits tidy/neet to, as they can some time conflict [cause interference] sound wise.

Does that mean I can't fit the massive pioneer sticker in my rear window? LOL
I'm sure just like all of us we live in area's where our cars could be at risk so 'Out of sight , out of mind'
Yes learning all the time, not just on sound but everything about these cars. This is why I use countrycruising for all my work as he takes time to explain what he's doing and why.
Still on a huge learning curve...

Yer there are some exspensive cables out there but I qwite like the audison stuff, it's super flexable, very well made, and very reasonably priced.

Yer out if sight is key, to run the cables you can duck tape them to the metal floor or as another mate of mine he users sound deadening to bond it to the floor when running cables, this give it that extra protection for the speaker cables and RCA cable from interferance

Hello audioguy, back to one of my Q's on page 1, not sure if you saw it?

Will the Parrot only work via ISO connectors and switch off the already amplified output from the head unit and substitute its own amplified signal? Will I have to ditch my old twin amp setup based on the old head unit pre-outs? Does the Parrrot have pre-outs?

After thinking some more, perhaps I should just go for a fancier head unit with minimum 2 preouts (for front sound stage only, when CD's arrive in 5.1 surround sound I might go for more)

Thanks for the advice so far!

hi mate as i explaind, you can take the speaker output from the 4 channel amp to the speaker iso input of the parrot then from the iso out-put of the parrot to the speakers.

yes the parrot has a amp built in and eq and the sound it brill!

or you can pay me to do it

Ah of course, that makes sense, sorry I was having a blonde moment (oh sorry, that's not PC is it )

lol but its the truth haha

Audioguy, what are you thoughts on these please. I have the Focal 6x9's in my rear quarters and so would naturally go for these for the front.

I have fitted the 13cm versions to a e46 and the were a very clear, crisp speaker but didn't have the ability to Handle bass at a hi volume but this could be becase they was run straight from the headunit and there size. I generaly like to start with a speaker that has a minimum genuine 80w rms, I prefer 100w rms really (alpine type r's)

Being ampted is the best result, hertz make some really nice quality 4 channel amps and audison make very good amps, also steg are alsome but ca...ching!

Hi
What do you think of the hertz hsk 16.5 components? or are there better at this price range?
Jon

hi the hsk's are the ones i recomend, there very clear and are tonefull with good bass responce

Hi
As well as the above speakers, I am also thinking about the alpine pdx 4x100 amp so it can fit under my passenger seat,and using the genesis profile 69 subs to fit in the rear quarters.
The bit i am confused about is do i buy 8ohm or 4ohm p69's?
and how do i run the amp with them?
People are talking about bridging channels and running them parallel.
I kind of understand, but an explanation and your advice of what would sound best would be appreciated.
Thanks,Jon.

this is always a tricky one to answer lol

i personaly prefer to stick to 4onm's on everything but if you demand hard bass and power to you desposal then most hard core bass junkies go down the 2 and 1ohm routes, i prefer a more pure hi-fi sound then a club music feel of bass shaking.

now to be fair i have used 2x 2ohm alpine type r subs 12" on a pdx and they were brilliant, very conrolled, punchy and responsive so you can have either and sometimes it can be cost effective to buy 2ohm

wiring the subs up in 4-2-1ohm's is in the instructions supplied with the sub and amp.

Hmmm still confused,I was talking about either running two 4ohm p69s with a channel each or bridging the channels together and running two 8ohm p69's from one channel.(does that make a 4ohm load?)
Any way i think i will stick to 4ohm p69's on a channel each!
Last question was what do you think is a nicer sounding amp hertz ep4/ep4x or alpine pdx4.100?

Cheers AG, I take it these are an average price?

Hi mate if you could do me a favour, i dont get on with dynamic sounds anymore and its due to them stealing customers from me and selling me net prices as trade, the installer's a mate of mine but other then that these guys are scum to be honest and im not the only one theyv done this too.

the alpine pdx 4.100 would be my choice, its clear, pure and never seems to struggle to deliver detailed sound.

as for the hertz id say this amp is also very good, very warm, tune-able, detailed sound, a very good hi end starter.

but althis said if i had the choice id pick the alpine and never look back

these p69 speakers are very pricey, why have you choose these? iv always considered a 6x9 speaker to be a bit of a "dont slate me" buget or space saver issue speaker?

now 6x9 speakers are not crap in any sence, its just that iv found them to be more tinny and mixed then a compareable 6.5 co-axle from the same range.

iv noticed these are subs in a sence, are you trying to fit subs into the car but out of view? if this is the case please dont wast your money.

a 6x9 as a sub is pointless. its like some of these flat subs out there, iv only found a handfull that i consider a good overall sub.

id say you'd be better of buying a set of components and just using the cross overs and woffers in the rear rather then the 6x9 and it would be around the same price

or why not fit some 8 inch co-axle speakers into the rear quarters? or flat 8" subs

they used to be no more then £119 retail before this credit crunch. but yes its the going price.

Thanks for your time and advice.
Regarding the genesis 6x9,they get quite good reviews genesis 6x9 subs but your view has been taken on board!