Guys I have the rear mount ready for production but I am awaiting the other two mounts so that I can do one group buy giving people the option of which mounts they wish to upgrade. It shouldn’t be too long I am expecting the final prototypes by next week.

If you are desperate you can remove the mount and unbolt the plate and turn it upside down, that should last you a month or two before it bends the other way

have we got a rough price for the othere mounts aswell yet turboj?

Any more news on this? getting kinda desperate!

Yes, they have finished up the final prototypes and just getting a final costing for the GB. They have been busy as the racing season takes up a lot of time.

Looks very impressive.

When they supply the new front gearbox mount can they supply a new long 10mm bolt with it (even if they have to source it from FIAT)?

With the standard FIAT mount it's very easy to strip the thread if you don't get it perfectly aligned when fitting.

John

Here is the other mount:


It comes in at £65.66 + VAT

The last mount will also be £61.64 + VAT

Keep an eye on the GB section as I will be opening the floodgates sometime today...

Thank the lord i'm needing mine very soon. Racing in April so it would be nice to have them all by then. Money waiting.

GB now open:
http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=999969#Post999969

Please keep tech talk in this thread.

Mounts look very impresive...could you tell us what the difference in desigh beatween FR and CO , PLEASE?
John(Tipoboy) mentioned about front gearbox mount bolt , that could be cross threaded , is that something VIBRATECH would do as well?

Thank you very much for your effort to make it available, apreciate that!!!

The bolt can be purchased from fiat for about £2 if we use the same thread. If so I will dig out the part number when I get a chance if not a bolt will be supplied with the mount. I will look into this bolt as they often bend, looking for 12.9 tensile strength.

Would any of these parts actually be compatible with the 147bhp NA engine? If so, given the power difference, would the existing mounts still be subject to such extremes of abuse?

I'm pretty they are the same mount in the 20V. They will be subject to the same abuse and my guess will probably need changing also. Maybe Roger can confirm? Can anyone confirm that these mounts will fit a 20V, 16V or 16VT?

Sorry my mistake, the bolt is usually okay, it's the thread on the mount that I stripped by accident. Make sure the engine is perfectly lined up such that the bolt goes in easily, don't try and tighten it up by force if there is any resistance. The same goes for all bolts but the mount is very expensive from FIAT (not to mention international delivery!)

Dont be sorry , because my PGS bolt has been crosthreaded , when i've screwed it out!
The point is , you dont know if the bolt is damaged before you skrew it out , it's better to have spare one handy , just in case.

I've asked Fiat main agent PGS's arent avaiable and bolt comes with the mount , you cant buy them loose.

One additional question regarding the two stiffness…
What stiffness is recommended for engines with >>400HP and a torque >500NM???
Is “Fast Road” sufficient for the additional engine torque or is there a recommendation from Vibra to use the competition stiffness???
My engine makes about 650NM – so far I do not have problems with a shaking engine and original mounts
Only change in my car :
Upgrade ENGINE STABILISER BUSH and
I have another rear gearbox mount – it’s the Alfa 155 Q4 mount because of the 4x4 drive – The DES and PGS are identical…
Therefore I would like to install a DES and PGS upgrade… only question is what stiffness… I want some “rest – comfort” – Therefore I would like to use the fast road, but if there is another recommendation of Vibra because of additional engine torque?!
Thank you
Juergen

The stiffness is more to do with compliance rather than strength. The material is good for high values of torque it’s just the feel. I would strongly advise fast road for any application other that regular racing.

Vibra Technics will be including the bolts as part of the package. I Just need the dimensions of the bolts for the PGS mount. Does anybody have one spare they can take a photo of and give me dimensions? Also confirmation of if they fit 16V 16VT & 20V would be nice.

I think it will fit the 16v / 16vt as these use the same mounts. I have put my name down for the gearbox one, so when i come to fit it, i can let you know. If it doesn't fit, it will be up for sale

Turboj@-you have pm with pic+demensions.

Cheers mate spot on

Glad it helps

GRS has 12mm bolt
DES has 12mm bolt
PGS has 10mm bolt,why fiat used different diameter

Any confirmation on whether they fit the 20V NA? Just thinking it can then apply to Bravo/Marea 20V engines as well as the Coop.

I'm 99% the RGS will fit the 20V as it uses the same subframe. Just not sure about the DES & PGS.

I'm wavering yes/no as to whether to join the group buy (altho' it's only polling for now) since I have a few Q's

How long do the standard items tend to last, does it depend on driving style, type of driving, etc., or will they all be shot after 10 years or 100,000 miles? As far as I can tell mine are all still OK, what are the symptoms of failing mounts, just increased vibration, knocking?

I'm tempted to get them anyway, but not if they're realistically going sit in the garage for another 10 years until I need them?

Is everyone buying these only because theirs are knackered, or because they're going racing?

Dave it’s very common for these mounts to fail. Most of the coupes I have seen the rear mounts is bent, the right mounts the rubber bonding comes apart. If your mounts have never been changed before there is a high possibly that they are on their way out.

What would really be nice is Roger to post his thoughts on the OE mount as he sees them more than anyone. You could always sell them after the GB as they will always be in demand

DaveG@- my mounts were knocking , but before they start doing that, i've felt movement on the gearstick when set of , it felt like engine with gearbox move a toch , not much though...
I have some pics of my worn mounts , just for an idea how they look on the way out.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj418/goodluckser/mount3.jpg
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj418/goodluckser/mount4.jpg
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj418/goodluckser/mount2.jpg
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj418/goodluckser/mount1.jpg
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj418/goodluckser/mount5.jpg

Hope that helps you and others to make a decision

anthrax that is a typical example of why I got these mounts developed.

The last time I rebuilt my engine I fitted a TorqueItaila uprated upper engine mount and lower engine mount. I left the rear and gearbox mounts standard as there were no replacements at the time.

When I started the car I almost didn't recognise the engine sound at idle. Much rougher sounding and the whole car vibrates slightly. Once I accepted that there wasn't anything wrong with the engine I was happy as it sounds very purposeful.

I'm thinking of replacing the engine, gearbox and rear with this new set. I have a question though...

Are there any negative effects to putting stiffer, and taken to the extreme solid, engine mounts on the car?

Does the twisting action of the engine as it comes on and off load transfer to the bolts holding the mounts to the chassis and even the chassis itself rather than being absorbed by the rubber in the mounts.

I'm guessing that no damage is done to the engine itself as there are several cars where the engine block is part of the structure with no isolating mounts in between.

I really need a RGS but i need 100% confirmation these will fit the 16vt as eper is useless and you can only buy the full support from fiat. Can anyone compare them ?