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Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: JimO] #936881
18/11/2009 19:22
18/11/2009 19:22

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Yes Rog hes joined the forum and first chance i get ill be going round to look over it with him, I agree though its a bloody nice looking car and hopefully as you say the problems should be minor.
It think the tickover problem is something to do with a sensor cos it cuts out when idling from cold, if you keep the revs up until it gets warmer itll tick over happily but the holding back when driving i dont know.... start with a service i think

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #936883
18/11/2009 19:27
18/11/2009 19:27
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What are the problems exactly ? cant really see them posted.

Its a great looking car. Engine has perfect oil pressure too (or did have).

Gianni always used Millers CFS 10w60 or selenia racing oil, far superior than most oils.

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Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: Rog20VT] #936886
18/11/2009 19:30
18/11/2009 19:30

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The problems as described to me are:
1.The car was holding back, spluttering, misfirng and backfiring on the drive home with no performance.
2.Its steaming up very bad inside
3.it starts, runs for 10 secs then wont tick over from cold unless the revs are kept up
4.The gearbox is very stiff

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #936905
18/11/2009 20:07
18/11/2009 20:07
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Blimey, i feel like im a bad guy now. I dont feel i misled anyone and have been totally honest and i can only apologise to matt for the problems hes having. I made sure the garage that did the Mot checked the car over before it was tested, which they did and told me nothing apart from a corroded brake line needed replacing or looking at.

I havnt driven the car for around 2 months now so obviously havnt been able to pick up on certain problems, i just figured if it started fine all the time and ran fine, had a check over at the garage who said it was all in good condition, and passed its Mot with no advisorys at all, Then it should be ready and fit to be passed on to someone who will use it more than me.

I couldnt think of anything more i could do to make sure it was fit to sell.

Sugerbear - yes it was on ebay and sold for around £1500.

Mattcoupe - Yes in april i did post saying the coupe had been steaming up but after changing the pollen filter and having a good look around the car i found the boot and passenger door seals were loose so i corrected that and the steaming up was apparently solved.

The cutting out and missfiring that was mentioned has stumped me as when matt came to look at the car he started it up from cold, and it sat idling for 20 minutes or so with no problems at all and every week when id started it up i ran it up to temperature with no problems. the mot garage i took it to is a 20 mile round trip and i got there and back with no running problems.

The gearbox was a little stiff when i had it but i didnt pay much attention to it as it didnt feel much different to my old coupe, but yes it does seem to have stiffened up a bit while its been sitting.

Rog20VT - the oil has been changed twice in the 9 months ive owned it and ive always used Millers 10W60, just as Gianni had said he used. It had an oil change at the beggining of july, and its done about 1000 miles since then. The oil pressure has never dropped below 2 bar, even on very hot idle sitting in traffic at Le mans in 30C heat.

1.The car was holding back, spluttering, misfiring and backfiring on the drive home with no performance - this never happened to me. As i say its been warmed up once a week and driven around with no problems so i honestly dont know what this would be but i would NEVER have sold it if i knew the car was running badly for exactly this reason.

2.Its steaming up very bad inside - Did have a problem but i thought i had sorted it, have spoken to matt about this aswel.

3.it starts, runs for 10 secs then wont tick over from cold unless the revs are kept up - again, when matt viewed the car it started up no problems and ran fine from stone cold and without starting it for a week.

4.The gearbox is very stiff - most likely because its been sitting, although i have heard that the centering spring for the gear lever can tire or stiffen up over time.

Ive apologised for any problems and im more than willing to help. The car has had over £1500 spent on it in my ownership, replacing brakes, the clutch and every common service item.

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: djjd05] #936917
18/11/2009 20:38
18/11/2009 20:38

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imo if the truth is being told, and we have no reason to suppose otherwise, it's bad luck for the new owner but it doesn't sound like much to put right - the old owner did what he could and nothing to suggest anything was wrong was discovered on inspection/collection.

IF it was me as the old owner, i'd offer to pay for a health check at one of the specialists for an objective report - be something around £25 - £50 quid. i'd decide from what he found what course of action to take. bottom line is, caveat emptor i'm afraid....

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #936935
18/11/2009 21:09
18/11/2009 21:09

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that sounds like a reasonable solution to me Proccy but unfortunately there are only two people in this tangle that can talk this out..... i only came in to show that there are 2 sides to every story

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #936941
18/11/2009 21:18
18/11/2009 21:18
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A health check is exactly what i paid for before it was sold, cost me £75 and just turned up a corroded brake line.

Im happy to help matt out, i just havnt got the money at the minute to pay for another check.

The money i got for the car has gone on paying off the rest of a loan i had and im well into my overdraft at the minute.

Definatly be going to a different garage from now on.

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: djjd05] #937073
18/11/2009 23:49
18/11/2009 23:49

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Thanks guys for all your comments to myself and Joe, There is no point in worrying about this anymore, as they say its just money, not that I like chucking it away. Saturday will be the firt time I get the opportunity to get a good look over the car, and try and sort some of the problems myself, hopefully this will reduce any costs. The car is indeed a good looker, but at present no to reliable, but I am sure with a little more TLC, I will get it sorted. I will be looking through thefeeds for as much advice as is available, and thank all of you again for your suggestions. I will keep you all informed, and hope to see some of soon.
Thanks Matt
P.S MattCoupe a propper mate chears!!

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: djjd05] #937081
18/11/2009 23:54
18/11/2009 23:54
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I sometimes used to see this car (as R3 COU) early evening joining the M3 near where I live, and was aware that djjd05 had not owned it very long, and was aware that it was sold again recently. I hope the new owner perseveres as it seemed to be a nice car.

As for problem 1, check all the hoses around the air intake system, especially the one that goes to the plastic pipe alongside the battery, as well as the hoses to the dump valve (under the plastic pipe)

And I assumed that although the new owner didn't take a test drive due to no tax, he must have taxed it to drive it home after buying it?


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Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #937082
18/11/2009 23:55
18/11/2009 23:55

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Hi, any suggestions as to the best place for spare parts. Couple of bist I would like to replace, just to get her smarteded up.
O/S Visor,
N/S Hand grab,
Rear Wiper Motor Blade Arm etc
O/S seat cable to drop backrest
Spose there will be other bits after saturdays inspection.
Thanks Matt wink

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #937087
19/11/2009 00:03
19/11/2009 00:03

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Joe at countrycruising on here or italian spares at loscoe or ebay or buying on here...... theres loads of places mate ive bought plenty of bits all over the place!

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #937091
19/11/2009 00:10
19/11/2009 00:10
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Originally Posted By: DMCOUPE
Hi, any suggestions as to the best place for spare parts. Couple of bist I would like to replace, just to get her smarteded up.
O/S Visor,
N/S Hand grab,
Rear Wiper Motor Blade Arm etc
O/S seat cable to drop backrest
Spose there will be other bits after saturdays inspection.
Thanks Matt wink


I can sort all and any parts, pm me a list or give me a call smile

01885 400740

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: Countrycruising] #937659
19/11/2009 21:35
19/11/2009 21:35

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MattCoupe, have you got a web address, phone number for italian spares at loscoe. I could pop down over weekend.

Re: Hmm, what to do.. [Re: ] #937702
19/11/2009 22:36
19/11/2009 22:36

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the number for salvogroup is 01773 530581, but you know how random on prices they can be!!
Anything you cant get, give joe (countrycruising) a call and we could even get up to Donnington for the meet to collect parts off him?!?

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