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Electric coupe? #1657273
28/04/2022 13:29
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Rewatched the Wheeler Dealer episode where they stuck 2 electric motors in a 1980s Maserati biturbo.

Surely it must be time that someone did this to a Coupe?

Obviously it would be a turbo base car to deal with the extra oooomph.

Ideally 4x4 conversion too to get the power down.

Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657274
28/04/2022 13:56
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Someone could beat Fiat to this!

Thinking a donor vehicle is the easiest starting point?

Or the old FCSS Fiat Coupe Rescue Van?

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MM

Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Master_Mariner] #1657277
28/04/2022 14:44
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Yeah. A donor vehicle with a knackered engine. Should be room for a motor in there.

Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657287
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Joe and I have looked at this in some detail a few years ago, and sadly come to the conclusion that it's not worth the cost - we were looking at twenty or thirty k just for the batteries.

Things may have changed now - more motors and batteries available from crashed cars, for one thing - but I suspect you're still looking at a minimum of £20k to do anything useful. Not much fun doing 0-60 in 4 seconds if the top speed is 88mph and the range 88 miles...


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: barnacle] #1657293
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Originally Posted by barnacle
Joe and I have looked at this in some detail a few years ago, and sadly come to the conclusion that it's not worth the cost - we were looking at twenty or thirty k just for the batteries.

Things may have changed now - more motors and batteries available from crashed cars, for one thing - but I suspect you're still looking at a minimum of £20k to do anything useful. Not much fun doing 0-60 in 4 seconds if the top speed is 88mph and the range 88 miles...


More reason to do it then Neil, I mean it's not like you're using your Coupe with it parked in storage, and as it'll be an EV you could run around Berlin in this without a care in the world laugh

Re: Electric coupe? [Re: barnacle] #1657296
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Originally Posted by BARNACLE
. Not much fun doing 0-60 in 4 seconds if the top speed is 88mph and the range 88 miles...


In that case you only need the range to be the length of 1 carpark and you'll go back to the future to 2030 where petrol cars are banned. laugh

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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657299
28/04/2022 19:58
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Someone started doing one, the lack of an update for 2 years might be telling - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChny4AcbbzY0S7oXfdKPfYw


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Countrycruising] #1657339
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Originally Posted by Countrycruising


More reason to do it then Neil, I mean it's not like you're using your Coupe with it parked in storage, and as it'll be an EV you could run around Berlin in this without a care in the world laugh


Hmm, yes, tie up twenty grand to have it parked in storage laugh

Still, with that short range it shouldn't take me more than a week to get to Berlin.

Neil


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: barnacle] #1657381
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Originally Posted by barnacle
[quote=Countrycruising]

Still, with that short range it shouldn't take me more than a week to get to Berlin.

Neil


What's the rush, you're retired aren't you laugh

Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657425
05/05/2022 11:38
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Sure I am, so my income is rather more limited than it was tongue


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: barnacle] #1657434
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Originally Posted by barnacle
Sure I am, so my income is rather more limited than it was tongue


.....but think of the saving on fuel and the convenience of being able to drive Anita around Berlin town centre instead of having to go in by bus or train smile

Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657437
05/05/2022 22:38
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Actually Joe it's a lotta fun gadding about Berlin on their public transport, it's ace cool


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Edinburgh] #1657448
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Originally Posted by Edinburgh
Actually Joe it's a lotta fun gadding about Berlin on their public transport, it's ace cool


Simon I'm trying to encourage him to go electric, not promote how fun it is to use public transport laugh

Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657451
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You always need to try that much harder where Neil is concerned laugh


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657466
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You do when the Berlin public transport just announced tickets for nine euros a month for the next three months... tongue


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: Gripped] #1657467
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Of course, you could consider using these new graphene carbon mesh ultra capacitors instead of batteries: https://www.digikey.co.uk/en/products/detail/skeleton-technologies-gmbh/SKELCAP-SCA0300/13180993

Downsides: they hold only a quarter of the charge of a similar sized lithium cell, so you need four times as many, and they cost four times the price of a similar cell, so it's going to cost you sixteen times the price for the batteries.

Upsides: they deliver ridiculous amounts of current which is handy for acceleration, but most significantly, they charge up to a thousand times more quickly than lithium cells, *and* they last twenty times as long...

Overall, they're a good solution apart from the cost and I'd expect to see more mass production bringing the costs way down in time. Probably they'll be common when the licensing agencies decide I'm too old to drive... (thursday or so).


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Re: Electric coupe? [Re: barnacle] #1657802
23/05/2022 21:38
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I don't really get all this converting an old IC car into electric, it's kind of like trying to put diesel traction into a steam locomotive - why? Just let the old cars become classics, for goodness sake the IC motor is part of the original mix of the car, an element that made the original so special.

What would be cool though would be if manufacturers could create a standardised EV chassis platform, and then offer their "Classic" body shapes on that chassis. Imagine a stunning new EV that has most of the Fiat Coupé design touches but is bang up to date, using modern construction techniques, materials and technology.


Gone Audi mad!

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